a lookup mystery. Very strange. yes/no? Does the domain exist or not?

[Joseph S D Yao]

On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 03:47:03PM +1000, Robert Chalmers wrote:
> I am coming across something I can't explain.
> 
> If I lookup a domain with whois, it can say "No match"....
> 
> Yes, nslookup returns a match, and a ping finds it.
> Even if I try other whois servers, it still wont match, yet nslookup can
> find it. How is this so?
> 
> For example, I tried NS1.SILVERSCANS.COM and whois tells me "No match..."
> Yet nslookup and ping both tell me it's is indeed there?
> (The name is nothing special, just a random selection from the nsiregistry)
> 
> Does anyone thne know of a definitive way of determining whether a domain
> actually exists or not?
> Because this must be making one hell of a mess of all those domain name
> registration companies...
> 
> You do a whois lookup. Ho! its free. You try to register, and suddenly ...
> woh! who's that trying to steal our domain...
> 
> Anyone heard of any sloutions to this???/
> 
> Thanks
> Cheers
> Robert

You are trying to look up a HOST.  Very few hosts are in WHOIS.  Try
doing a 'whois silverscans.com'.  You should get a result something
like:

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[whois.crsnic.net]

Whois Server Version 1.1

Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: SILVERSCANS.COM
   Registrar: ALABANZA, INC.
   Whois Server: whois.bulkregister.com
   Referral URL: www.bulkregister.com
   Name Server: NS1.SWBELL.NET
   Name Server: NS1.CALABASA.COM
   Updated Date: 05-jul-2000


>>> Last update of whois database: Fri, 7 Jul 00 04:55:43 EDT <<<

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.

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Then we can try the indicated whois server:

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[whois.bulkregister.com]
calabasa.com (SILVERSCANS-COM-DOM)
   1420 S Saint Louis Ave
   Tulsa, OK 74120
   US

   Domain Name: SILVERSCANS.COM

   Administrative Contact:
        Chris Silvernail  (CS917-BR)  bluejettas at hotmail.com
        bluejetta.com
        1427 S Rockford Ave
        Tulsa, OK 74120
        US
        Phone- 918-587-1656 
        Fax- 
   Technical Contact:
        Corey Roth  (CR285-BR)  corey at calabasa.com
        calabasa.com
        1420 S St Louis Ave
        Tulsa, OK 74120
        US
        Phone- (918) 640-5299 
        Fax- (810) 963-0158

   Record updated on 2000-06-12.
   Record created on 2000-06-12.
   Record expires on 2001-06-12.
   Database last updated on 2000-07-07 03:49:27 EST.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NS1.SWBELL.NET                151.164.1.1                   
   NS1.CALABASA.COM              64.216.180.69                 
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