brad.knowles at skynet.be
Tue Oct 2 19:01:08 UTC 2001
At 3:03 AM -0700 10/2/01, Kevin wrote:
> On the subject of lamers, does anybody actually _do_ anything about
> them? I'm getting about 10 - 15 a week in my logs, and I've been
> wondering whether I should let the respective sysops know or just
> forget about them (and turn the logging off)?
Many years ago (Mon May 1 15:21:59 EDT 1995, according to the
timestamp in lamers.sh), I also took over the "lamers" script from
Bryan Beecher. For a while I was running it myself, and posting
weekly reports to the comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains newsgroup, as
well as mailing off copies of the reports to all and sundry addresses
I could find for the affected zone.
However, since then, I haven't really had an opportunity to do
much of anything with it.
Ideally, what I'd really like to do is to have sites run a
modified version of lamers that runs nightly and takes all the
notices, pulls out the server name and the zone name, and then does a
"sort -u" of that information and sends that via e-mail to an account
I would set up.
I could then do a global "sort -u" of all the input data, check
out all the information, and then send out the notices, post the
I could even add a back-end database onto the system, so that I
could keep track of when we first noticed that a system became lame
for a particular zone, if I got any bounces when sending mail to the
registered e-mail address or to "postmaster" at that address, I could
forward that information to the folks at rfc-ignorant.org, etc....
However, during the time I was running lamers, I found an
exceptionally high proportion of sites that did not understand what a
lame delegation was and didn't really care, and I got flamed quite
frequently for what they claimed to be my probing of their network.
If I were to re-start this effort and to bring it forward with
more modern administrative techniques, I'd want some support from
other folks to help make the project happen and keep it going in my
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles at skynet.be>
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