please help

[Guido Roeskens]

George wrote:
> Hi everyone
> Sorry to ask this but I seem to be having a few problems here as we all know sending 

> mail using cc is a prime way spammers get through to people, 
Why do you think so??
If you said bcc: I'd say you have a point.


> I am using a spam filter http://www.stop.spam-now.com that allows me to setup mailing 

> lists and allows everything sent to the mailing list and then sent out by that list through. 
The filter shouldn't care if the mailing list address is in to 'to:'
or 'cc:' field of a post.


> The problem is that it seems many people have started sending the posts to people and 

> cc'ing the list this now means that the list address is in the cc field and 

> is a potential spammer. It may just be me BUT why not send to the list and cc the person 

> of course if that person is a members of the list there is no point in sending directly 

> to the OR cc'ing them.
Why do you reply to the sender and cc: the list?
Because that's how e-mail (MUA to be precise) work.
(MUA: Mail user agent - pine, Outlook, Netscape Mail, Mozilla...)

Look at on of your headers:
Message-ID: <01cb01c452d1$270de100$2101a8c0 at pc1>
Reply-To: "George" <george at thecia.ie>
From: "George" <george at thecia.ie>
To: <bind-users at isc.org>
Cc: <bortzmeyer at nic.fr>
References: <019401c452b9$e662ab70$2101a8c0 at pc1> 
<20040615094802.GA371 at nic.fr> 
<mailbox-94325-1087300349 at jupiter.securetechnology.biz>
Subject:  Re: please help

The From: and Reply-To: fields contain your email address.
When repying, the MUA first looks for a Reply-To field and sends mail to
the address in this field if it exists. If only the From: field is set,
mail is sent to this address.
If a MUA does a reply-all, it first uses the above fields to determine
to which address to send the mail to. All other fields (more than
one address in the to field, any addresses in the cc: fields are set
to cc: in the reply)
In your mail above the Reply-To: field has _your_ e-mail address and
the list address is in the To: field and is thus cc'ed.

> 
> Hope youze all see the point I am trying to make.
> 
No. You want to change the established "workflow" of email just
because your "spam filter" doesn't work.
In other words "No, the sun is not revolving around the earth"

> Thanks

You're welcome,

Guido