Bad delegation?
Mark Andrews
Mark_Andrews at isc.org
Sun Aug 31 00:42:29 UTC 2008
> I administer a web and mail server whose IP was changed some weeks
> ago. Since then I've had intermittent problems, affecting only some
> of my users. They get timeout errors when attempting to follow
> certain links on my web pages.
>
> The server is cohosted at my ISP. The DNS is handled by my domain
> registrar, Dreamhost. (Previously I ran my own BIND server.) All of
> the following looks OK to me:
>
> $ dig @ns1.dreamhost.com -t any pinko.net
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P1 <<>> @ns1.dreamhost.com -t any pinko.net
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10719
> ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 6, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 4
> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;pinko.net. IN ANY
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> pinko.net. 14400 IN A 208.79.2.3
> pinko.net. 14400 IN NS ns2.dreamhost.com.
> pinko.net. 14400 IN NS ns1.dreamhost.com.
> pinko.net. 14400 IN SOA ns1.dreamhost.com. hostmaster.d
> reamhost.com.
> 2008082600 20690 1800 1814400 14400
> pinko.net. 14400 IN MX 10 debs.pinko.net.
> pinko.net. 14400 IN NS ns3.dreamhost.com.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns2.dreamhost.com. 14400 IN A 208.96.10.221
> ns3.dreamhost.com. 14400 IN A 66.33.216.216
> debs.pinko.net. 14400 IN A 208.79.2.3
> ns1.dreamhost.com. 14400 IN A 66.33.206.206
>
> ;; Query time: 65 msec
> ;; SERVER: 66.33.206.206#53(66.33.206.206)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Aug 26 19:10:19 2008
> ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 259
>
>
> Now let's query the TLD name servers for debs.pinko.net. Note that
> the A record returned for debs.pinko.net is different; that is the old
> IP address.
Well someone has registered debs.pinko.net as glue for a
nameserver. If it is a nameserver you need to update the
record via your registrar. If it is not a nameserver you
should remove the record via your registar.
Mark
> $ dig @a.gtld-servers.net debs.pinko.net
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P1 <<>> @a.gtld-servers.net debs.pinko.net
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26253
> ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3
> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;debs.pinko.net. IN A
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> debs.pinko.net. 172800 IN A 204.96.181.68
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> pinko.net. 172800 IN NS ns1.dreamhost.com.
> pinko.net. 172800 IN NS ns2.dreamhost.com.
> pinko.net. 172800 IN NS ns3.dreamhost.com.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns1.dreamhost.com. 172800 IN A 66.33.206.206
> ns2.dreamhost.com. 172800 IN A 208.96.10.221
> ns3.dreamhost.com. 172800 IN A 66.33.216.216
>
> ;; Query time: 74 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.5.6.30#53(192.5.6.30)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Aug 26 19:13:02 2008
> ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 163
>
>
> Albitz & Liu, DNS and BIND, says this indicates a delegation problem,
> if I understand them correctly. So does this:
>
> $ dig @a.gtld-servers.net -t ns pinko.net
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P1 <<>> @a.gtld-servers.net -t ns pinko.net
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 32942
> ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 3
> ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;pinko.net. IN NS
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> pinko.net. 172800 IN NS ns1.dreamhost.com.
> pinko.net. 172800 IN NS ns2.dreamhost.com.
> pinko.net. 172800 IN NS ns3.dreamhost.com.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns1.dreamhost.com. 172800 IN A 66.33.206.206
> ns2.dreamhost.com. 172800 IN A 208.96.10.221
> ns3.dreamhost.com. 172800 IN A 66.33.216.216
>
> ;; Query time: 79 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.5.6.30#53(192.5.6.30)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Aug 26 19:17:04 2008
> ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 142
>
>
> I understand the parent shouldn't be handing out NS records in the
> answer section, rather, they should appear in the authority section.
>
>
> Verisign says "talk to Dreamhost." Dreamhost says "our servers are
> functioning properly." If this is indeed bad delegation, what's the
> right way to solve the problem? Or is my diagnosis wrong?
--
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews at isc.org
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