questions about making subdomain related with F5

[Dawn Connelly]

rather than using NS records each time, I have a specific subdomain that I
CNAME to. Actually I think that is the recommended method for the load
balancers. so it would look something like this.
gtm.foo.com could be your subdomain

www.aaa.com IN CNAME www.aaa.gtm.foo.com
www.bbb.com IN CNAME www.bbb.gtm.foo.com

Then set up the gtm servers to answer DNS queries for www.aaa.gtm.foo.com,
www.bbb.gtm.foo.com, etc. I *think* there is some stuff on this on
http://devcentral.f5.com/ If not, you can definitely post to the forum there
and someone will answer toot sweet.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:58 PM, QMIN <qmin77 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank for answering Kevin
> The problems is that  F5 is a kind of DNS sever based load-balancers, so I
> have to delegate domains I want to load-balance to F5. This mean that I have
> to configure two F5 servers for each domain.
> Like this way.
> www.aaa.com. IN NS f5-1.aaa.com.
> www.aaa.com IN NS f5-2.aaa.com
>
> www.BBB.com. IN NS f5-1.aaa.com.
> www.BBB.com IN NS f5-2.aaa.com
>
> it makes me feel annoyed. Think about if I've got lots domains which need
> to be load-balanced. I can still stand this kind of hard workings, but what
> if one of F5 is broken.
>
> Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bind-users-bounce at isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounce at isc.org] On
> Behalf Of Kevin Darcy
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:31 PM
> To: bind-users at isc.org
> Subject: Re: questions about making subdomain related with F5
>
> QMIN wrote:
> > Hi..
> > Currently I am running bind DNS servers with F5s which is global load
> > balance equipment.
> >
> > To load balance, I have to delegate domain to F5s
> >
> > However I¡¯ve got lots of domains which I need to load balance
> >
> > It is kind of annoying to configure each domains at the zone file as well
> > as I would take long time to delete configuration
> > when one of F5 has got some trouble.
> >
> > A question which I want to ask is that Can I use just one subdomain name
> > server with two ip address?
> >
> > For example I want to configure subdomain name server like below
> > configuration.
> >
> >
> >
> > www.aaa.com <http://www.aaa.com/> . in ns f5.aaa.com.
> >
> > bbb.aaa.com. in ns f5.aaa.com.
> >
> > f5.aaa.com.    in a xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> >
> > f5.aaa.com     in a fff.fff.fff.fff
> >
> >
> >
> > by configuring like above, I don¡¯t need to set two F5 domains up to each
> > global load balanced domains.
> >
> > I can configure one NS domain to each domain which needs to be load
> > balanced, also when one of F5 is broken I could take it out from service,
> >
> The standards require at least 2 NS records.
>
> You don't have to remove any NS or A records when one of the F5's is
> broken, however, since other nameservers will automatically fail over to
> the other NS and/or A record. DNS is very adaptable in this respect.
>
> I don't know about F5 specifics, but we use a scheme with our
> load-balancers that's even simpler than what you show above. We just
> delegate a *single* zone to each set of load-balancers, and then
> everything becomes aliases to names under that delegation, e.g.
>
> $ dig www.dodge.be
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> www.dodge.be
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 929
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.dodge.be.                  IN      A
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.dodge.be.           300     IN      CNAME   int.us3.lb.chrysler.com.
> int.us3.lb.chrysler.com. 10     IN      A       129.9.1.12
> int.us3.lb.chrysler.com. 10     IN      A       129.9.129.12
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> us3.lb.chrysler.com.    1334    IN      NS
> gssoddi1.extra.chrysler.com.
> us3.lb.chrysler.com.    1334    IN      NS
> gsssdci1.extra.chrysler.com.
>
> ;; Query time: 2230 msec
> ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) <http://127.0.0.1#53%28127.0.0.1%29>
> ;; WHEN: Fri Jul 25 01:12:42 2008
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 151
> $
>
> us3.lb.chrysler.com (for example) is delegated to the load-balancers,
> and then each website name is an alias to a name under that. This cuts
> down the total number of records you need in your zone (1 alias per
> website name, versus at least 2 NSes for each delegation), plus, for us,
> aliases are much easier to maintain with our tools than delegations.
> This scheme presumes, however, some flexibility on the part of the
> load-balancer as to what names it can serve via DNS.
>
> Unfortunately, this scheme doesn't work with "apex" names, e.g. dodge.be
> as opposed to www.dodge.be, so we're stuck with the options of either a)
> serving the _whole_ zone, e.g. dodge.be itself, from the load-balancers
> (which we decline to do since we often have non-website data in the
> zone, and load-balancer DNS implementations are still rather immature),
> or b) reverting to simple round-robin DNS for the apex name.
>
>
>                              - Kevin
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