bad horizontal referral ?
Jean-François Leroux
leroux.jeanfrancois at gmail.com
Fri Mar 14 17:30:49 UTC 2008
Well, you're right. Maybe it's coming from dig version? It's DiG
9.4.1-P1 (debian Etch).
Thanks for the test anyways :-)
2008/3/13, Kevin Darcy <kcd at chrysler.com>:
> What version of dig are you using? I don't seem to be having a problem:
>
> $ dig tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr @dns1.ac-orleans-tours.fr. +nssearch +trace
> SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
> 2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
> dns4.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 121 ms.
> SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
> 2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server dns1.ac-orleans-tours.fr
> in 123 ms.
> SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
> 2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
> dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 125 ms.
> SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
> 2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server dns1.ac-orleans-tours.fr
> in 123 ms.
> SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
> 2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
> dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 164 ms.
> SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
> 2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
> dns4.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 164 ms.
> SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
> 2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server dns1.ac-orleans-tours.fr
> in 122 ms.
> SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
> 2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
> dns4.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 123 ms.
> SOA dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr. root.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr.
> 2008031103 28800 7200 604800 86400 from server
> dns2.tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr in 123 ms.
>
> $
>
>
> - Kevin
>
> Jean-François Leroux wrote:
> > Oh, sorry, both of you. I had misunderstood the question. Thanks for
> > offering help :-)
> >
> > Here it is : tice.ac-orleans-tours.fr
> >
> > 2008/3/13, Kevin Darcy <kcd at chrysler.com>:
> >
> >> Examples work perfectly, assuming they're constructed properly.
> >>
> >> If you want help on a real zone, you'll need to give the real zone name,
> >> not an example name.
> >>
> >> FYI, myzone.com is delegated to ns1.netnation.com and ns2.netnation.com,
> >> neither of which appear to be giving horizontal referrals.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jean-François Leroux wrote:
> >> > The zone, in my example, is called myzone.com. Private zone is
> >> > private.myzone.com.
> >> >
> >> > 2008/3/13, Barry Margolin <barmar at alum.mit.edu>:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <fr96i6$1bt6$1 at sf1.isc.org>,
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jean-Francois Leroux" <leroux.jeanfrancois at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Ok, I understand. Thanks for the explanation.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now, here's my problem. I have two dns servers in a public zone (which
> >> >> > I'm testing), and when I issue a dig myzone.com @myserver1.myzone.com
> >> >> > (or myserver2) +nsserach +trace, I always get this message. Could it
> >> >> > be that there's a problem with my setup? As far as I understand bind,
> >> >> > it should be ok, the second one being slave of the first one. They're
> >> >> > on the same level though, since both are slaves of a single master in
> >> >> > the private zone. Is this a problem?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> What's the zone?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2008/3/12, Kevin Darcy <kcd at chrysler.com>:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>> Jean-Francois Leroux wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >> > > > Thanks for the explanation, Kevin. If I may ask, what means
> >> >> > > > 'horizontal' in the message? I've had a look in my DNS & Bind book but
> >> >> > > > couldn't find anything about it...
> >> >> > > > And while I'm thinking of it, how can I know which server refers me to
> >> >> > > > a wrong address? Is this possible ?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > 2008/3/12, Kevin Darcy <kcd at chrysler.com>:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> Jean-Francois Leroux wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >> > > >> > Hi,
> >> >> > > >> > doing a trace with dig today I got a 'BAD (HORIZONTAL) REFERRAL'
> >> >> > > >> > message, with the correct answer though.
> >> >> > > >> > What does this mean ?
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> Referrals should be "down" not "across". If you're resolving www.foo.com
> >> >> > > >> iteratively and along the way a delegated nameserver for foo.com refers
> >> >> > > >> you to blah.com, that's a useless referral because it doesn't get you
> >> >> > > >> any closer to resolving the name.
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> Dig probably got the correct answer because it gave up on the broken
> >> >> > > >> nameserver and tried a different one.
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "Horizontal" means at the same level of the hierarchy. The DNS namespace
> >> >> > > is often viewed as being tree-like, with the "root" at the top and each
> >> >> > > level of subdomain extending downwards. If a referral is "across" rather
> >> >> > > than "down", it's "horizontal" instead of "vertical".
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > So many prepositions, so little time...
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > - Kevin
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Barry Margolin, barmar at alum.mit.edu
> >> >> Arlington, MA
> >> >> *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
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