Reverse DNS Dig returning PTR results only with trace option

Kevin Darcy kcd at chrysler.com
Tue Nov 10 21:32:15 UTC 2009


It's worse than that. Sometimes RD doesn't even get copied into the 
response header.

I suspect there's a load-balancer in front here, and at least one "bad", 
non-BIND nameserver behind it, spewing out nasty stuff like "horizontal" 
delegations...

Either that, or some middlebox is munging the queries/responses.

To clarify what needs to be done to fully implement this approach to 
"classless delegation": *each*in-addr*arpa*name* needs to be delegated 
separately, and *each*one* needs to be defined as a *separate* zone on 
the moneytreesystems.com nameservers. Put each respective PTR record at 
the apex of each of those zones.

That's a pain, isn't it? Maybe now you understand why most people uses 
aliases a la RFC 2317. It's often the lesser of two evils.

- Kevin

Chris Hills wrote:
> On 10/11/09 18:25, Raj Adhikari wrote:
>> Now I can do a dig for an hour or so. But again I run into same problem.
>> It wont return PTR record unless I explicitly do dig on ns1.cyzap.net.
>> Also, the last did showing ns1.cyzap.net as Authority NS for this IP.
>> But trace showing ns1.moneytreesystems.com as final sender.
>>
>> Could someone shed a light on this?
>
> 254.63.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS NS3.MCLEODUSA.NET.
> 254.63.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS NS1.MCLEODUSA.NET.
> 254.63.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS NS2.MCLEODUSA.NET.
> ;; Received 112 bytes from 192.42.93.32#53(y.arin.net) in 173 ms
>
> 228.134.254.63.in-addr.arpa. 7200 IN NS ns1.cyzap.net.
> 228.134.254.63.in-addr.arpa. 7200 IN NS ns2.cyzap.net.
> ;; Received 90 bytes from 209.253.113.19#53(NS3.MCLEODUSA.NET) in 159 ms
>
> 228.134.254.63.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN NS ns2.moneytreesystems.com.
> 228.134.254.63.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN NS ns1.moneytreesystems.com.
> ;; BAD (HORIZONTAL) REFERRAL
> ;; Received 160 bytes from 64.253.181.53#53(ns2.cyzap.net) in 167 ms
>
> You should not chain a delegation in this manner. Either make the 
> servers ns1.cyzap.net. and ns2.cyzap.net. authoritative for 
> 228.134.254.63.in-addr.arpa. or have your ISP change the NS records to 
> point directly to ns1.moneytreesystems.com. and 
> ns2.moneytreesystems.com. The cyzap servers do not respond with the 
> authority bit set ("aa" in dig).
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
>
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