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2782 says that you have to issue a RFC to move a protocol over to
using SRV.

The protocol that runs on port 80 is called "Hypertext Transfer Protocol".
Version 1.0 is described in RFC 1945, "Hypertext Transfer Protocol -- 
HTTP/1.0".  RFC 2616 describes HTTP/1.1.  I don't know where version 0.9 is
described (not that I have looked hard for it).

The World Wide Web is a combination of HTTP, FTP, gopher and a number
of other protocols using documents originally written in HTML to inter-
link them.

It would be easy to argue that _http._tcp is what should be used.
Note all the other RFC's refer to it as HTTP.

Below is a long expired draft attempting to get SRV support for HTTP.

If you wish to discuss this further it really should be done over in
the IETF.  As there is currently no working group that is appropriate
ietf at ietf.org is where discussion should be moved to.  Please cc me
if you decide you need to followup as I'm not subscribed to ietf at ietf.org.

Mark






   INTERNET-DRAFT                                          M. Andrews (ISC)
   <draft-andrews-http-srv-02.txt>                              T. Kottelin
   Updates: RFC 2616, RFC 2782                                February 2002



             Use of SRV records in conjuction with HTTP and URIs.


   Status of this Memo

      This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with
      all provisions of Section 10 of RFC2026.

      Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering
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      Comments should be sent to the authors.

      This draft expires on August 2002


   Copyright Notice

      Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2002).  All rights reserved.



   Abstract

      The combined use of SRV records for HTTP along with URIs is not as
      straight forward as it would appear at first glance.  This document



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      looks at the issues involved and recommends solutions.


   Introduction

      Many of todays HTTP sites are virtual, that is they are hosted on a
      machine that is not known by the name the HTTP site is known by.
      This leads to the problem of how to rationally give these HTTP sites
      IP addresses.  This has traditionally been done by using CNAMES
      [RFC1034][RFC1035] or by using explicit IP address records where
      CNAMES are illegal due to restrictions in the DNS.

      Both of these solutions have undesired side effects.  CNAMES are not
      protocol specific.  Using IP address records is a logistic nightmare
      for large servers with many virtual sites.  This is becoming a bigger
      problem as companies move away from identifying their HTTP site with
      a ``www'' prefix and just use their delegated domain name, e.g.
      ``http://example.com/''.

      Using SRV [RFC2782] records would seem to be a natural solution to
      this problem in that they are protocol specific and will work where
      CNAMES are illegal in the DNS.

      There are problems with doing this without thought however in that
      URIs [RFC1738] can specify a port and SRV records do specify a port.
      When this occurs which one do you honour?

      In addition to this SRV records provide for load balancing.  For most
      protocols this is straight forward as there will only be a single
      connection made.  For HTTP however there are often many connections
      made in a session.  Should each of these individual connections be
      load balanced or should the load balancing be on a per session basis?

      The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
      "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
      document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.


   1. URIs without an explicit port specification

      If the URI does not explicitly specify a port to connect to, i.e. the
      URI does not contain a ``:<port>'' part, there is no port conflict.
      In this case a client MUST follow the logic specified in [RFC2782],
      including the server selection mechanism provided by the priority and
      weight fields.  If SRV records do not exist then the client MUST fall



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      back to looking for IP address records.

      Once a server is selected it SHOULD be continued to be used for the
      rest of the session if possible after an initial connection is made.
      If a server has multiple addresses the client SHOULD continue to use
      the same address while possible taking into consideration ttl values
      on address records.  If connections to this address fail it SHOULD
      try the other addresses for the server first before attempting other
      servers.

      The use of a SRV record does not affect the contents of the "Host:"
      field of the HTTP transaction.  Its only effect is to potentially
      change the address and port the client connects to.  All other parts
      of the HTTP transaction are not affected by the presence of a SRV
      record.

      Examples:

      Single SRV record:

         URI:     http://example.com/
         SRV RR:  _http._tcp.example.com. SRV   10 0 8080 host1.example.com.
         A RRs:   example.com.            A     10.0.0.2
                  host1.example.com.      A     10.0.1.1

      Connect to:  10.0.1.1 port 8080

      Multiple SRV records:

         URI:      http://example.com/
         SRV RRs:  _http._tcp.example.com. SRV   10 1 8080 host1.example.com.
                   _http._tcp.example.com. SRV   10 3 8080 host2.example.com.
                   _http._tcp.example.com. SRV   20 0 8080 host3.example.com.
         A RRs:    example.com.            A     10.0.0.4
                   host1.example.com.      A     10.0.1.2
                   host2.example.com.      A     10.0.2.2
                   host3.example.com.      AAAA  1080::8:800:200C:417A

      Connect to: 10.0.1.2 port 8080 or 10.0.2.2 port 8080 if either is
      available (the probability of being selected should be 25% for
      10.0.1.2 port 8080, and 75% for 10.0.2.2 port 8080); otherwise, try
      1080::8:800:200C:417A port 8080.






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   2. URIs with a explicit port specification

      If the URI does explicitly specify a port to connect to then there is
      a potential conflict in the port specification between the URI and
      the SRV records, and the SRV record is ignored.  In this case the
      user agent MUST query for address records for the host name in the
      URI (instead of SRV records).

      If the server has multiple addresses the client SHOULD continue to
      use the same address while possible taking into consideration ttl
      values on address records.

      Note [RFC2616], Section 3.2.3 URI Comparison, states that URIs with a
      port value equal to the default port (80) are identical to those with
      no port or a empty port.  URIs with port are no longer treated as
      identical to those without a port or with a empty port.

      Examples:

      Default port specified:

         URI:      http://example.com:80/
         SRV RR:   _http._tcp.example.com. SRV   10 1 8080 host2.example.com.
         A RRs:    example.com.            A     10.0.0.1
                   host2.example.com.      A     10.0.2.2

      Connect to: 10.0.0.1 port 80

      Non-default port specified:

         URI:      http://example.com:8080/
         SRV RR:   _http._tcp.example.com. SRV   10 1 80 host2.example.com.
         CNAME RR: example.com.            CNAME host1.example.com.
         A RRs:    host1.example.com.      A     10.0.0.1
                   host2.example.com.      AAAA  1080::8:800:200C:417A

      Connect to: 10.0.0.1 port 8080


   3. Transitioning Considerations

      When transitioning from using a non-SRV solution to using a SRV based
      solution old, non-SRV aware, clients will continue to look for
      address records.  It may be necessary to use redirection at the HTTP
      layer to direct these clients to the new servers if the SRV records



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      point to a different <address, port> tuple.

      It will also be necessary to continue to provide the existing address
      / CNAME records until there is a significant percentage of SRV aware
      clients.  Experience has shown that this should be within one to two
      years of the introduction of the first SRV aware client.

      In cases where you are just trying to replace the A or CNAME record
      referring to a service providers machine with a SRV record the
      following should suffice.

      The service provider is hosting the service on machine.example.net
      and you are example.com.

         example.com.        A   <IP address of machine.example.net>
         _http._tcp.example.com. SRV 0 0 80 machine.example.net.



   Security Considerations

      The authors believe the algorithm described in this document to not
      cause any new security problems.  However care should be taken as SRV
      and non-SRV aware clients may be directed to different locations.


   IANA Considerations

      A well known label has to be allocated for the first label of the
      http SRV record.  This document has used ``_http''.


   References


   [RFC1034]
      Domain names - concepts and facilities. P.V. Mockapetris.
      Nov-01-1987. STD 0013, RFC 1034.


   [RFC1035]
      Domain names - implementation and specification. P.V. Mockapetris.
      Nov-01-1987. STD 0013, RFC 1035.





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   [RFC1738]
      Uniform Resource Locators (URL). T. Berners-Lee, L. Masinter, M. McC­
      ahill. December 1994. RFC 1738.


   [RFC2616]
      Hypertext Transfer Protocol -- HTTP/1.1. R. Fielding, J. Gettys, J.
      Mogul, H. Frystyk, L. Masinter, P. Leach, T. Berners-Lee. June 1999.
      RFC 2616.


   [RFC2782]
      A DNS RR for specifying the location of services (DNS SRV). A. Gul­
      brandsen, P. Vixie, L. Esibov. February 2000. RFC 2782.


   Authors' Addresses

         Mark Andrews
            Internet Software Consortium
            1 Seymour St.
            Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
            +61 2 9871 4742
            Mark.Andrews at isc.org


         Thor Kottelin
            Laivalahden puistotie 10 C 37
            FIN-00810 Helsinki, Finland
            +358 400878169
            thor at anta.net

















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