Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support

Novosielski, Ryan novosirj at umdnj.edu
Fri Feb 22 18:28:28 UTC 2013


Could we knock off the politics please? I view the recent few posts as ignorant nonsense (complete with poor spelling AND Ayn Rand -- a twofer!), but I'm not inclined to take us further off topic by responding to it.



From: Shawn Bakhtiar [mailto:shashaness at hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 01:25 PM
To: bind-users at lists.isc.org <bind-users at lists.isc.org>
Subject: RE: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support


Well said. government is a bloated waist of money, however, look at what happened when Ma'bell was broken up. Unix became proprietary and languished while DOS dominated the world. Look at what happened when we deregulated energy in California 2 decades ago, prices shot up, and price gouging nearly sent the economy into a spiral.

You have to either follow Ayn Rand, in true free economy, by letting anyone function as a registrar, or centralize it to a system that treats the registrant equally.

I personally use netsol, they do charge more, but I find them to have an excellent service model, but why are we limited to .com .edu .gov et al, why not have the root servers as a government function, give people the ability to request and publish any TLD, I want to be .sha I want to run .sha with little to no QA. I want anyone and everyone without fee to be able to register domains under it? Why not? There is no technical reason stopping this from happening is there?

The REAL problem is you already have government control, here is an ICANN thought on all this (ICANN governs it is government, though not in the traditional sense):
http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/new-stld-rfp/new-stld-rfp-24jun03.htm

Don't want to fill the list with political brain farting but I passionately feel that this a fundamental violation of netizens rights that we have to pay to get domain names, and that we are limited to the TLD that we can register with, with a HUGE financial/systemic barrier to entry as a TLDs. There is a very big part of the world population that can not afford the $ 10 a year even, and thus is simply not equitable. There are countries, regions, that can not participate.

If all that does not make sense, let's put it this way, Wikipidia serve 1000x more data (I know not in number of hits,  but in data bits) then I bet the roots do. Yet they are free, and live off of donations. How hard can this be?

If governments are bloatware, corporations are vaporware :)


> From: michoski at cisco.com
> To: bind-users at lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides DNSSEC support
> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:51:49 +0000
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Shawn Bakhtiar <shashaness at hotmail.com>
> Date: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:06 AM
> To: "bind-users at lists.isc.org" <bind-users at lists.isc.org>
> Subject: RE: Registrar that supports self-run domains and provides
> DNSSEC support
>
> >2) We don't buy or maintain street addresses from a for profit company,
> >why should domain name be any different? Domain name registration should
> >be a free government/ ma'bell function.
>
> Being an outsider with no beef or raves for GD (just realized that sounds
> like something else), I feel this isn't necessarily true. Government
> functions rarely get ran well, at least here in the US. They're slow,
> bloated, and tend to spend lots of tax dollars (not really free) producing
> things hackers easily circumvent the day after release.
>
> Also, in ma'bell (er um netsol?) fashion, lack of competition stifles
> innovation. Of course all the registrars don't do what any one of us
> likes, but at least there is choice. Lack of competition also tends to
> drive price up vs down.
>
> However, I'm not sure making choices based on "cheaper" and then
> complaining about quality makes sense. I'd like to think such gems could
> exist, but it's certainly not illogical to expect problems from free
> services with less money to devote to improving their infrastructure or
> conducting R&D to adopt new technologies.
>
> I know this last bit from experience, having worked at CELECs back in the
> day and running an ISP that was severely underfunded because the Internet
> was "new" and couldn't be trusted like a telephone. Lots of committed
> people working long hours for very little, but there's only so much you
> can do with blood, sweat and tears.
>
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