Writeable file already in use

Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net
Tue Jan 5 18:24:30 UTC 2016

and to finish that topic:

in days of zram (it's in the mainline kernel for a long time - 
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt) when you 
think you need some swap for whatever reason you use that just because 
modern hardware has left so many cpu cycles left that it don't need 
measurable ressources and it#s way faster

Am 05.01.2016 um 19:19 schrieb Reindl Harald:
> Am 05.01.2016 um 19:05 schrieb Darcy Kevin (FCA):
>> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/190398/do-i-need-swap-space-if-i-have-more-than-enough-amount-of-ram
> and the answer is clearly NO if you have *enough* RAM
> you just have to define the "enough"
> which means your workload and your useful buffercache fits in
> when a have a machine (in my case only VMs) running over a full month
> with a 1 GB swap file and it's not used with a single MB i do NOT need
> stackexchange to answer that question
> a dedicated authoritative-only namserver and to utilize the ressources a
> containered asterisk with hylafax and even a tiny webserver with a
> mysqld for the addressbook are doing that with 1.5 GB RAM:
> [root at asterisk:~]$ free
>                total        used        free      shared  buff/cache
> available
> Mem:           1,5G        150M        886M         18M        460M    1,3G
> Swap:            0B          0B          0B
> what do you want to swap out there?
> the machine has all blocks of the disks it ever accessed, the software
> and the data in it's memory and would not come to the idea swap anything
> out anyways
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bind-users-bounces at lists.isc.org
>> [mailto:bind-users-bounces at lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Reindl Harald
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 12:19 PM
>> To: bind-users at lists.isc.org
>> Subject: Re: Writeable file already in use
>> Am 05.01.2016 um 18:03 schrieb Barry Margolin:
>>> In article <mailman.13.1452009325.73610.bind-users at lists.isc.org>,
>>>    Alan Clegg <alan at clegg.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/16 6:26 AM, Jan-Piet Mens wrote:
>>>>>> This might make you sad if you have lots of zones or large zones.
>>>>> .. or even just want to look at what was transferred (whitout having
>>>>> to recurse to a `dig axfr').
>>>>> I see no reason to omit 'file' (except on a diskless slave ;-)
>>>> I ran into one exception to this rule - it seemed that the customer
>>>> had security requirements that did not allow "transient data" to be
>>>> written to disk.  They had to make sure that if the physical device
>>>> was stolen, all of their zone data didn't follow it out the door.
>>> The in-memory copy is likely to end up in the swap partition
>> a proper dimensioned server has no swap partition at all, at least no
>> one od the servers i am responsible since 2008 had one and *for sure*
>> the memory requirement of a authoritative nameserver is pretty clear
>> to don't need it

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