[Non-DoD Source] BIND Masters and slaves

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Mon Jun 15 19:44:25 UTC 2020

I have been teaching informal DNS classes at work for decades, and I used to be very careful to use “master” and “slave” and would include a section where I pointed out that using “primary” and “secondary” instead was not correct. Then about 10 years ago one person in class pointed out to me that for some people when they hear that terminology it really bothers them because of what slavery means. When she said that a few other people nodded and agreed. I hadn’t thought about that aspect of it, and so someone had to explain to me how jarring and distracting from the subject matter that could be for some people. I’ve used “primary” and “secondary” in all my classes and documentation since then. Not because of twitter and social media or because I have an image to uphold, but in order to be considerate of other people’s feelings and not dismiss them because they’re so different from mine.

I would like to see the terms replaced by something that doesn’t hearken back to tragedy and torture.


> On Jun 15, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Michael De Roover <isc at nixmagic.com> wrote:
> Of course I could, but I do not feel like the effort to change nomenclature is either beneficial or worth taking for granted the requests of some people on Twitter - as the slave to peer authority I am - given how much it affects documentation, code, comments, general environment of the projects themselves. I enjoy being surrounded by people much smarter than I am when it comes to the mailing list here. Let's keep it that way and not derange ourselves into meaningless blabber from social media.
> What I did notice over time however that most of the projects affected are also those who do have to maintain a good public image, usually corporations. Meanwhile projects such as Opal <https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941> and recently Rubocop <https://github.com/rubocop-hq/rubocop/issues/8091> as well were not. The latter one I'd like to draw attention to. The maintainer clearly didn't ask for this and asked everyone who shamed him, why are you doing this? None of the complainers were affiliated to the project at all. Chances are that they weren't even using it and just searched for projects with the name "cop" in it instead. These are not the people I want to support in my effort to end racism, which I do support, and quite heavily so.
> On 6/15/20 8:00 PM, DeCaro, James John (Jim) CIV DISA FE (USA) wrote:
>> Or you can call the slave servers 'secondary' servers.  
> -- 
> Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards,
> Michael De Roover

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