DNSVIZ errors

Fri May 16 01:53:35 UTC 2025

i didn’t receive your reply but saw this on lists archive so replying to 
you:

Do be aware that Ondrej is a member of ISC, the organization that 
develops
BIND. He is also one of the maintainers of the Debian release of BIND 
which
you are using.

Why should i be aware? Is he is a threat or something??

In general, claiming that everyone but you is wrong is not exactly a
teamplayer mentality, and creates aversion towards getting you the help 
you're
asking for. Not just Ondrej or the other developers ISC employs, the 
entire
list really.

I claim no such thing.

Or going even further than that, any list, any support channel. Not even 
just
voluntary ones like this, even paid support channels aren't going to 
like
customers who act like that. Those are paid to help you and to be nice 
to you,
yes, but don't be surprised if it diminishes the quality of the help you 
are
to receive.

I don’t share your views.

Do consider it, in any case.

I wont. from someone who cant even search the internet

N.B.: A trademark office allowed you to get a trademark on the term
"Intelligence"?

TM is not a LEGAL symbol. again learn to google and not hurl accusations 
in public and make a fool of yourself.

On 21/04/2025 8:25 pm, akritrim® Intelligence™ via bind-users wrote:
> version: BIND 9.20.8-1+0~20250416.117+debian12~1.gbp1ea9dd-Debian 
> (Stable Release) <id:> (<<REDACTED>>)
> running on localhost: Linux x86_64 6.1.0-33-cloud-amd64 #1 SMP 
> PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.133-1 (2025-04-10)
> boot time: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:40:59 GMT
> last configured: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:40:59 GMT
> configuration file: /etc/bind/named.conf
> CPUs found: 1
> worker threads: 1
> number of zones: 10 (0 automatic)
> debug level: 0
> xfers running: 0
> xfers deferred: 0
> xfers first refresh: 0
> soa queries in progress: 0
> query logging is ON
> response logging is OFF
> memory profiling is INACTIVE
> recursive clients: 0/900/1000
> recursive high-water: 0
> tcp clients: 0/150
> TCP high-water: 25
> server is up and running
> 
> 
> is this any way related to this?
> 
> From 9.20.8 release notes:
> 
> Restore NSEC3 closest-encloser lookup improvements.
> 
> A performance improvement for finding the closest encloser when 
> generating authoritative responses from NSEC3 zones was previously 
> reverted after a bug was found that could trigger an assertion failure. 
> ([GL #4460], [GL #4950], and [GL #5108]) The bug has now been fixed, 
> and the performance improvement has been restored. [GL #5204]
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/04/2025 7:12 pm, Mark Andrews wrote:
>> What does ‘rndc status’ return?
>> 
>>> On 21 Apr 2025, at 13:05, akritrim® Intelligence™ via bind-users 
>>> <bind-users at lists.isc.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your help. it does give insights into the problem.
>>> 
>>> if you check dnsviz history, this does not happen everytime.
>>> 
>>> the bind version is BIND 
>>> 9.20.8-1+0~20250416.117+debian12~1.gbp1ea9dd-Debian
>>> 
>>> obtained from: https://www.isc.org/download/  —->  
>>> https://bind.debian.net/bind
>>> 
>>> there are no firewalls or load balancers. these are directly 
>>> connected to internet. i was running BIND 9.18 official debian 
>>> package and got no errors like this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 21/04/2025 4:46 am, Crist Clark wrote:
>>>> The version of BIND and where you got it would be a good start. Any 
>>>> load
>>>> balancers, firewalls, etc. between the server and internet that 
>>>> might touch
>>>> the DNS records?
>>>> True DNSSEC gurus please check my math.
>>>> DNSvis is correct. You're not sending the proper NSEC3 records. Like 
>>>> the
>>>> RFC says, "It takes three to tango," or NSEC3 denial of existence. 
>>>> You sent
>>>> two. For a name where two levels of label don't exists,
>>>> l5tz4.1i89a.akritrim.net
>>>> You should send back three NSEC3 records,
>>>> 1) NSEC3 record that proves 1i89a.akritrim.net (
>>>> 18QMAAOCT0HPNGCPD9MLONVAK13DS8HT) does not exist.
>>>> 2) NSEC3 record for akritrim.net (N1MI0QA6QNO2L00GAT0PE6PEGGHHI48P).
>>>> 3) NSEC3 record proving the wildcard, *.akritrim.net (
>>>> 6L23GRBE4JIMA1A0G8DSBBUT32V6VCO1), does not exist.
>>>> But you're not, you're only sending two,
>>>> N1MI0QA6QNO2L00GAT0PE6PEGGHHI48P.akritrim.net. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 0 -
>>>> QDO3A5R9G64L616H1K2FF3SUMFPPRV3J A NS SOA MX TXT AAAA RRSIG DNSKEY
>>>> NSEC3PARAM CDS CDNSKEY CAA
>>>> 67QJN06FLKRQCT38S4FF08EP31NDRL8S.akritrim.net. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 0 -
>>>> 6LPNNJIVL1267OV5QQSBFLMFIDHMHJ8P TXT RRSIG
>>>> Those are two I'd expect to see for (2) and (3), but where is (1)?
>>>> But it's weirder. For this name,
>>>> ebzoq.ik7ub.akritrim.net
>>>> You are sending three NSEC3, but one doesn't look like the right 
>>>> one. You
>>>> should send,
>>>> 1) NSEC3 record that proves 1i89a.akritrim.net (
>>>> S2NOKIAA732BLNNSEMCJ8KV74H6ICUEP) does not exist.
>>>> 2) NSEC3 record for akritrim.net (N1MI0QA6QNO2L00GAT0PE6PEGGHHI48P).
>>>> 3) NSEC3 record proving the wildcard, *.akritrim.net (
>>>> 6L23GRBE4JIMA1A0G8DSBBUT32V6VCO1), does not exist.
>>>> But these get sent,
>>>> N1MI0QA6QNO2L00GAT0PE6PEGGHHI48P.akritrim.net. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 0 -
>>>> QDO3A5R9G64L616H1K2FF3SUMFPPRV3J A NS SOA MX TXT AAAA RRSIG DNSKEY
>>>> NSEC3PARAM CDS CDNSKEY CAA
>>>> I559SEFHCJO35HED2LU4N68B44CA281V.akritrim.net. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 0 -
>>>> KOGD0HOUD9R7BAB4LKQR2E9ALI57C7N0 A AAAA RRSIG CAA
>>>> 67QJN06FLKRQCT38S4FF08EP31NDRL8S.akritrim.net. 600 IN NSEC3 1 0 0 -
>>>> 6LPNNJIVL1267OV5QQSBFLMFIDHMHJ8P TXT RRSIG
>>>> The first and last are the same two we got previously and line up 
>>>> with (2)
>>>> and (3). But we get this other one that doesn't line up with (1). 
>>>> But what
>>>> I /think/ that might be is the record that would prove
>>>> ebzoq.ik7ub.akritrim.net (IAT39F3MSSGS2D4O255VNHB67V2GCNVI) does not 
>>>> exist
>>>> in its place.
>>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 10:29 AM akritrim® Intelligence™ via 
>>>> bind-users <
>>>> bind-users at lists.isc.org> wrote:
>>>>> i didn't specifically ask for your help. i don't know why you 
>>>>> replied. yes
>>>>> i do need help but this doesn't mean i can read your mind.
>>>>> so let me know what 'bits' of information should i share that will
>>>>> meaningfully help me. ( this is equivalent to saying '
>>>>> if you need anything specific let me know.')
>>>>> today language models are more context aware.
>>>>> and if you don't want to share what do you 'need' then leave it be, 
>>>>> i
>>>>> don't want your help.
>>>>> On April 20, 2025 5:17:46 PM UTC, "Ondřej Surý" <ondrej at isc.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On 20. 4. 2025, at 17:57, akritrim® Intelligence™ via bind-users <
>>>>> bind-users at lists.isc.org> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> anyways, if you need anything specific let me know.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Well, I don't really need anything, you've asked for help here, not I.
>>>>> I've already told you what is needed,
>>>>> >you didn't follow my advice :shrug:. The bits of information you have
>>>>> provided are not sufficient to meaningfully
>>>>> >help you.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Ondrej
>>>>> >--
>>>>> >Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
>>>>> >ondrej at isc.org
>>>>> >
>>>>> >My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not
>>>>> feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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