<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">Let me take a step back. The original problem is "dig ." would give SERVFAIL instead of NOERROR.  The "." is pointed to <a href="http://named.ca">named.ca</a> which looks normal. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Linux Addict <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:linuxaddict7@gmail.com" target="_blank">linuxaddict7@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">Actually I tried +trace from BIND server itself and still get the same answer. I did "</span><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">dig . +trace @localhost"</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">; <<>> DiG 9.7.0-P1 <<>> . +trace @localhost</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">;; global options: +cmd</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      i.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      c.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      b.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      e.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      d.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      l.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      f.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      j.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      h.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      k.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      m.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">.                       346239  IN      NS      g.root-servers.new.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">;; Received 405 bytes from localhost#53(localhost) in 1 ms</font></div><div><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Lyle Giese <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lyle@lcrcomputer.net" target="_blank">lyle@lcrcomputer.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div> 172.27.254.11 is giving you that info
      with the .new name servers.  You need to ask whomever manages that
      server.<br>
      <br>
      Look at this line from your +trace output:<span><br>
      <br>
      Received 405 bytes from 172.27.254.11#53(172.27.254.11) in 1 ms<br>
      <br></span><span><font color="#888888">
      Lyle</font></span><div><div><br>
      <br>
      On 2/3/2015 1:13 PM, Linux Addict wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">Additional
          info - general: warning: checkhints: unable to find root NS
          'b.root-servers.new' in hints</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">​I
            cant seem to find where the ".new" coming from...​</div>
          <br>
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      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Linux
          Addict <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:linuxaddict7@gmail.com" target="_blank">linuxaddict7@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">The
                <a href="http://named.ca" target="_blank">named.ca</a> seems good.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
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              <div class="gmail_default">
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">;; ANSWER SECTION:</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" size="4">.                       518400
                     IN      NS      <a href="http://H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET" target="_blank">H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><br>
                </div>
                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
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                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:02
                    PM, Lyle Giese <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lyle@lcrcomputer.net" target="_blank">lyle@lcrcomputer.net</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                        <div>If I remember right, DIG does not know the
                          root servers and asks the local host to
                          retrieve that information and a server at
                          172.27.254.11(which is RFC 1918 address space)
                          gave you that answer.<br>
                          <br>
                          Is your machine/shop setup with private root
                          servers?<br>
                          <br>
                          Lyle
                          <div>
                            <div><br>
                              <br>
                              On 2/3/2015 12:50 PM, Linux Addict wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">
                                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
                                  do dig . +trace and the results seem
                                  show .new servers. This is causing
                                  SERVFAIL for root query. Any ideas?</div>
                                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
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                                <div class="gmail_default">
                                  <div class="gmail_default"> dig .
                                    +trace</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">;
                                    <<>> DiG 9.7.0-P1
                                    <<>> . +trace</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">;; global
                                    options: +cmd</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     b.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     h.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     l.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     f.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     m.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     k.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     i.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     e.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     g.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     j.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     c.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">.          
                                                348510  IN      NS    
                                     d.root-servers.new.</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">;; Received
                                    405 bytes from
                                    172.27.254.11#53(172.27.254.11) in 1
                                    ms</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="gmail_default">;;
                                    connection timed out; no servers
                                    could be reached</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
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