<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">There was nothing changed on the system since 2012. The behavior changed all of sudden. I am just curious where dig got root servers like "<span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">b.root-servers.new.".</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Leonard Mills <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lenm@yahoo.com" target="_blank">lenm@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large"><span class=""><div>>Let me take a step back. The original problem is "dig ." <br></div><div>> would give SERVFAIL instead of NOERROR. <br></div><div>>The "." is pointed to <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://named.ca/" target="_blank">named.ca</a> which looks normal. <br></div><div><br></div></span><div dir="ltr">Without source code changes to your tools and/or replacement <br></div><div dir="ltr">hints files "." invariably points to the root servers to be used by the (possibly local) DNS toolset.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">HTH,</div><div dir="ltr">Len<br></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><br clear="none"> <div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:47 AM, Linux Addict <<a href="mailto:linuxaddict7@gmail.com" target="_blank">linuxaddict7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">Actually I tried +trace from BIND server itself and still get the same answer. I did "</span><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">dig . +trace @localhost"</font></div><div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">; <<>> DiG 9.7.0-P1 <<>> . +trace @localhost</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">;; global options: +cmd</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS i.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS c.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS b.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS e.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS d.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS l.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS f.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS j.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS h.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS k.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS m.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 346239 IN NS g.root-servers.new.</font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">;; Received 405 bytes from localhost#53(localhost) in 1 ms</font></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div><br clear="none"><div>On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Lyle Giese <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:lyle@lcrcomputer.net" target="_blank">lyle@lcrcomputer.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div>
<div> 172.27.254.11 is giving you that info
with the .new name servers. You need to ask whomever manages that
server.<br clear="none">
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Look at this line from your +trace output:<span><br clear="none">
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Received 405 bytes from 172.27.254.11#53(172.27.254.11) in 1 ms<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></span><span><font color="#888888">
Lyle</font></span><div><div><br clear="none">
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On 2/3/2015 1:13 PM, Linux Addict wrote:<br clear="none">
</div></div></div><div><div>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">Additional
info - general: warning: checkhints: unable to find root NS
'b.root-servers.new' in hints</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
cant seem to find where the ".new" coming from...</div>
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</div>
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<div>On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Linux
Addict <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:linuxaddict7@gmail.com" target="_blank">linuxaddict7@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">The
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://named.ca/" target="_blank">named.ca</a> seems good.</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">;; ANSWER SECTION:</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://c.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://i.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://f.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://b.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://l.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://d.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://j.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://k.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://e.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://a.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://m.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://g.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="4">. 518400
IN NS <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://h.root-servers.net/" target="_blank">H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET</a>.</font></div>
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<div>On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:02
PM, Lyle Giese <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:lyle@lcrcomputer.net" target="_blank">lyle@lcrcomputer.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>If I remember right, DIG does not know the
root servers and asks the local host to
retrieve that information and a server at
172.27.254.11(which is RFC 1918 address space)
gave you that answer.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Is your machine/shop setup with private root
servers?<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Lyle
<div>
<div><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
On 2/3/2015 12:50 PM, Linux Addict wrote:<br clear="none">
</div>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
do dig . +trace and the results seem
show .new servers. This is causing
SERVFAIL for root query. Any ideas?</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>
<div> dig .
+trace</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>;
<<>> DiG 9.7.0-P1
<<>> . +trace</div>
<div>;; global
options: +cmd</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
b.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
h.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
l.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
f.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
m.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
k.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
i.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
e.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
g.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
j.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
c.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>.
348510 IN NS
d.root-servers.new.</div>
<div>;; Received
405 bytes from
172.27.254.11#53(172.27.254.11) in 1
ms</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div>;;
connection timed out; no servers
could be reached</div>
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