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Thank you, -d surfaced the issue - now to decide what to do about it...</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bind-users@lists.isc.org <bind-users@lists.isc.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: CNAME restrictions</font>
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Offhand, it looks like the server side is configured to only allow authenticated updates, but you're sending an unauthenticated one.
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<div>A more nuanced issue might be if the ID you're running the nsupdate as, can't read the key files, so even though you may have intended the update to be signed, it actually wasn't.</div>
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<div>Did you try adding a -d to the nsupdate command? If so, does the debug output give any clues?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 1:30 PM Leroy Tennison <<a href="mailto:leroy@datavoiceint.com">leroy@datavoiceint.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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 We have a certificate for *.<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fdatavoiceint.com&c=E,1,e3FlEDT18o4d4tQSRMvBH_pJRuK7156_n6wtGIzdpwjQt88Y_j375seki-O4IjtqsVLmsYGablGT9qnLV7jap1khSDSeV8Qt3U6JQ73WAhGbMMeoi10k&typo=1" target="_blank">datavoiceint.com</a>
 which </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">we prefer to use instead of having to acquire a certificate for <internal subdomain>.<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fdatavoiceint.com&c=E,1,6-PPelQOIFl5wSdbP2RNe2N6pkrhqneq6Ezfx3p5-pXYgNrt6J521WJEJJKFmvxtsjfuSzRbWHJnSbpTUyu6XqeAeCg6OO0-KzDJiXfe1ccW7qg9pN7g2CgI&typo=1" target="_blank">datavoiceint.com</a>
 since this is a one-off internal-only web server.  Our (ISC) DNS servers (version 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu that comes with Ubuntu 16.04) serve both domains.  I thought a solution would be to use a CNAME but, when I attempt this (via nsupdate with the update key which
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 86400 IN CNAME <span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important"><webserver>.<internal subdomain></span>.<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fdatavoiceint.com&c=E,1,K69ghu-8VkYZl4XrnMCfdzlp4UUfK2BGmh9Q9xWS3VzeXkVGOtpJequZa-J_gQCYM2J904MVlyeH5VboQjCatM-y6QbI5FtcIV32w9Cx&typo=1" target="_blank">datavoiceint.com</a>.<br>
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">Apparently I'm mis-understanding CNAME usage, if I actually can use a CNAME record what should the format be (or do I need to configure
 bind differently to use it since part of the reply is NOTIMP)?  If that's not possible due to CNAME restrictions are there any alternatives?</span></div>
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