<div dir="ltr">Your MTU is not the point. It's what happens beyond your equipment that may have a bearing. However, as I said, I don't think IP fragmentation will be your problem in this case, so that's a whole other discussion for a different day.<div>pcaps are your friend though. From a packet capture you can see exactly what happened on the wire, rather than speculate.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, Greg</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 13 May 2022 at 18:00, Philip Prindeville <<a href="mailto:philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com">philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">My MTU is 1500 bytes, so I don't think that's the problem.<br>
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But UDP can fragment via IP...<br>
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> On May 13, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Greg Choules <<a href="mailto:gregchoules%2Bbindusers@googlemail.com" target="_blank">gregchoules+bindusers@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi Philip.<br>
> Can you run packet captures? I'm running 9.18.0 (close enough?) in Docker and just traced what happens going from "dnssec-validation no;" to "dnssec-validation auto;" It makes a DNSKEY query for "." to one of the roots. The response size was over 900 bytes, so depending on what UDP payload size is advertised there might need to be some retrying over TCP. But you'll only know whether that is happening from a pcap.<br>
> So I'd say.. check EDNS payload size, check what your firewall(s) is/are prepared to let through, check whether DNS/TCP is allowed at all, check if something is doing IP fragmentation (though I wouldn't expect this to come into play with a packet ~1k).<br>
> <br>
> I hope some of that is useful.<br>
> Cheers, Greg<br>
> <br>
> On Fri, 13 May 2022 at 17:07, Philip Prindeville <<a href="mailto:philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com" target="_blank">philipp_subx@redfish-solutions.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> After rebooting my OpenWRT router with Bind 9.18.1 yesterday, I started seeing a lot of:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: validating ./NS: no valid signature found<br>
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: validating net/DS: no valid signature found<br>
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: no valid RRSIG resolving './NS/IN': 192.203.230.10#53<br>
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: no valid RRSIG resolving 'net/DS/IN': 8.8.4.4#53<br>
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: validating com/DS: no valid signature found<br>
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: no valid RRSIG resolving 'com/DS/IN': 8.8.4.4#53<br>
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: validating net/DS: no valid signature found<br>
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: no valid RRSIG resolving 'net/DS/IN': 66.232.64.10#53<br>
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: validating com/DS: no valid signature found<br>
> May 12 19:24:06 OpenWrt named[11061]: no valid RRSIG resolving 'com/DS/IN': 66.232.64.10#53<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> In my options, I had:<br>
> <br>
> dnssec-validation auto;<br>
> <br>
> But had to turn this off. It had been working. This is a production firewall/router.<br>
> <br>
> What troubleshooting should I do to fix this?<br>
> <br>
> I had tried:<br>
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> rndc managed-keys refresh<br>
> rndc managed-keys sync<br>
> <br>
> But don't understand why that would have been necessary unless the root keys got updated recently.<br>
> <br>
> Scrolling to the very top of the logs I see:<br>
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> May 12 19:24:04 OpenWrt named[11061]: managed-keys-zone: Unable to fetch DNSKEY set '.': timed out<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> <br>
> -Philip<br>
> <br>
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