<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">The repository labels are best approximation that allow you to stay on a single repository and get the upgrades when needed.<div><br></div><div>The other option was to have repositories named bind-9.16, bind-9.18 and so on, but that would require manual intervention every time there’s a version bump.<br><div><br></div><div>The BIND 9.16 EOL means there will be no further updates, it doesn’t mean that the version is broken the moment we mark it as EOL.<br><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;">It is difficult to explain to leadership why something was marked as EOL, but is still active in the pipeline.</div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>I don’t understand. Are you saying that you can’t upgrade to BIND 9.18 because of how the repositories are structured or named?</div><div><br></div><div>The repositories are provided for the convenience and you can still build your own binaries or packages if those are not convenient for you.</div><div><br></div><div>Ondrej</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div>Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)<div><br></div><div>My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 17. 6. 2024, at 20:24, Robert Wagner <rwagner@tesla.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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If 9.16 was EOL at the end of April: <a href="https://kb.isc.org/docs/bind-9-end-of-life-dates" target="_blank" id="OWA8c431854-0bae-0fb3-eba7-42dfc4f42737" class="OWAAutoLink" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="0" style="margin: 0px;">
https://kb.isc.org/docs/bind-9-end-of-life-dates</a> Help me understand why ESV wasn't rolled to 9.18 at that time or before in 2023 when it was marked as ESV?</div>
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It is difficult to explain to leadership why something was marked as EOL, but is still active in the pipeline.</div>
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ISC's Software Support Policy and Version Numbering</a> do not seem to match.</div>
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<p>Have you considered scheduling the change in version published in each COPR repository so it doe
<i>not</i> coincide with the release of a new version of BIND?</p>
<p>I have some hosts tied to the COPR for BIND-ESV, and some tied to BIND. I hit a stumbling block during the last "roll over" event, and it took me a a bit to figure out if it was due to the switch of BIND-ESV from 9.11 - > 9.16 in the repository, or the switch
from 9.16.x -> 9.16.y in the code-release. </p>
<p>If we could have the version published in the BIND-ESV repository advance to the same version which was most recently published in BIND repository (i.e. ship 9.18.x in BIND, a couple of weeks later roll BIND-ESV to 9.18.x and BIND to 9.20.x, and a couple
of weeks later release 9.18.y and 9.20.y), then problems with the COPR "roll over" would be a little more obvious.</p>
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John Thurston 907-465-8591
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<div>On 6/17/2024 2:32 AM, Michał Kępień wrote:</div>
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<pre><div>While I don't have a specific date for you, we plan to do such a
"rollover" again when BIND 9.20.1 or 9.20.2 gets released, i.e. in about
2-3 months from now. We will definitely roll all three repositories at
the same time, i.e.:
- "bind-esv" will move from 9.16 to 9.18,
- "bind" will move from 9.18 to 9.20,
- "bind-dev" will move from 9.19/9.20 to 9.21.</div></pre>
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