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    On 08-07-2024 13:42, Greg Choules wrote:<br>
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      Hi Kees.
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    Hi Greg, thanks for the quick reply.<br>
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          <div>A few questions:</div>
          <div>- What version of BIND are you running?</div>
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    9.16.23 (in centos that is 32:9.16.23-15.el9)<br>
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          <div>- How large (number of RRs) are your zones?</div>
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    My main zone (renamed to example.com) is about 800 RRs (if I
    interpret RR correctly).<br>
    The in-addr.arpa zones have 150-200 entrie.<br>
    What you need to know is that this is a FreeIPA environment. The
    zones are stored in LDAP.<br>
    The DHCP sends its updates to one of the bind servers. These updates
    are then replicated in LDAP.<br>
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          <div>- What is the peak rate of dynamic updates?</div>
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    Don't know. Is there is simple command to show this.<br>
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          <div>- Do you have "max-journal-size" configured to anything?</div>
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    That should be the default. I haven't specifically changed it.<br>
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          <div>- Are you perhaps getting short on disc storage in the
            place where BIND keeps its files?</div>
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    No. Many GBs free disk space. The jnl files that I see are just a
    few kbs in size.<br>
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          <div>- How much RAM does the server have and how much of that
            is BIND using?</div>
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    One has 8GB. Two others have 128GB (because they run in an LXC/Incus
    container).<br>
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          <div>I would recommend reading the ARM section on the journal.
            The log message itself comes from "zone.c"</div>
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    OK. I have a global understanding what the journal is doing. I went
    through the zone.c code before posting this here.<br>
    But so far I could not figure out how this message can be triggered.
    And also, the systems didn't show this message before upgrading
    CentOS.<br>
    One system is still at CentOS 8-Stream. The message isn't shown on
    that one.<br>
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          <div>Cheers, Greg</div>
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    -- Kees<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 at 12:18,
            Kees Bakker via bind-users <<a href="mailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">bind-users@lists.isc.org</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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            Hi,<br>
            <br>
            At the moment I have three FreeIPA systems (replicas),
            recently <br>
            installed with CentOS 9-Stream.<br>
            All three of these show this message at irregular intervals.<br>
            <br>
            Jul 03 07:50:44 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <a href="http://example.com/IN" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              example.com/IN</a>: <br>
            zone_journal_compact: could not get zone size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 07:50:51 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <br>
            16.16.172.in-addr.arpa/IN: zone_journal_compact: could not
            get zone <br>
            size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 07:51:03 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <br>
            17.16.172.in-addr.arpa/IN: zone_journal_compact: could not
            get zone <br>
            size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 07:51:34 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <br>
            29.16.172.in-addr.arpa/IN: zone_journal_compact: could not
            get zone <br>
            size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 07:52:12 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <br>
            30.16.172.in-addr.arpa/IN: zone_journal_compact: could not
            get zone <br>
            size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 08:03:51 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <a href="http://example.com/IN" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              example.com/IN</a>: <br>
            zone_journal_compact: could not get zone size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 08:04:52 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <br>
            29.16.172.in-addr.arpa/IN: zone_journal_compact: could not
            get zone <br>
            size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 08:06:30 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <br>
            30.16.172.in-addr.arpa/IN: zone_journal_compact: could not
            get zone <br>
            size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 08:18:42 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <a href="http://example.com/IN" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              example.com/IN</a>: <br>
            zone_journal_compact: could not get zone size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 08:20:19 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <br>
            29.16.172.in-addr.arpa/IN: zone_journal_compact: could not
            get zone <br>
            size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 08:26:23 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <br>
            30.16.172.in-addr.arpa/IN: zone_journal_compact: could not
            get zone <br>
            size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 08:34:12 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <a href="http://example.com/IN" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              example.com/IN</a>: <br>
            zone_journal_compact: could not get zone size: not found<br>
            Jul 03 08:34:50 <a href="http://iparep5.example.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
              iparep5.example.com</a> named[541]: zone <br>
            29.16.172.in-addr.arpa/IN: zone_journal_compact: could not
            get zone <br>
            size: not found<br>
            <br>
            I have been running FreeIPA (including the bind nameserver)
            for several <br>
            years now and I have never seen this message before.<br>
            I still have one FreeIPA system running CentOS 8-Stream.<br>
            <br>
            Does anyone have a clue what it can be? Or how to find out?
            There are <br>
            close to zero hits when I searched for this on the internet.<br>
            How to debug this? (How to debug this in a production
            environment, ha ha)<br>
            -- <br>
            Kees<br>
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