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<body><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Same here, A returns 147.75.40.150 while AAAA returns nothing. MX has records to Microsoft, as addressed by Sten.</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">My chain is recursive to Cloudflare from vantage points at Hetzner, and from there follows the usual public chain.</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;"><span style="background-color:#ffffff;"><span style="font-family:monospace;"><span style="color:#54ff54;"><strong>vim@ideapad.lan</strong></span><span style="color:#000000;"> [</span><span style="color:#5454ff;"><strong>~</strong></span><span style="color:#000000;">] </span></span></span><br /><span style="background-color:#ffffff;"><span style="color:#18b218;">$</span><span style="color:#000000;"> dig aaaa vodafone.com </span></span><br /><br />; <<>> DiG 9.18.33-1~deb12u2-Debian <<>> aaaa vodafone.com <br />;; global options: +cmd <br />;; Got answer: <br />;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 7639 <br />;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1 <br /><br />;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: <br />; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232 <br />; COOKIE: ec6f757e9f681d460100000067fe5cd257a173f4c18ef0a6 (good) <br />;; QUESTION SECTION: <br />;vodafone.com. IN AAAA <br /><br />;; AUTHORITY SECTION: <br />vodafone.com. 900 IN SOA ns1.vodafone.com. hostmaster.vodafone.com. 2008108109 28800 7200 604<br />800 900 <br /><br />;; Query time: 56 msec <br />;; SERVER: 192.168.10.4#53(192.168.10.4) (UDP) <br />;; WHEN: Tue Apr 15 15:19:14 CEST 2025 <br />;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 120 <br /><br />Command completed on 2025-04-15 15:19 CEST (exit 0).</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;"><span style="background-color:#ffffff;"><span style="color:#54ff54;"><strong>vim@ideapad.lan</strong></span><span style="color:#000000;"> [</span><span style="color:#5454ff;"><strong>~</strong></span><span style="color:#000000;">] </span></span><br /><span style="background-color:#ffffff;"><span style="color:#18b218;">$</span><span style="color:#000000;"> dig a vodafone.com </span></span><br /><br />; <<>> DiG 9.18.33-1~deb12u2-Debian <<>> a vodafone.com <br />;; global options: +cmd <br />;; Got answer: <br />;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20497 <br />;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 <br /><br />;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: <br />; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232 <br />; COOKIE: 9fdf8476c27d3c0c0100000067fe5cde99940403446944dc (good) <br />;; QUESTION SECTION: <br />;vodafone.com. IN A <br /><br />;; ANSWER SECTION: <br />vodafone.com. 3563 IN A 147.75.40.150 <br /><br />;; Query time: 4 msec <br />;; SERVER: 192.168.10.4#53(192.168.10.4) (UDP) <br />;; WHEN: Tue Apr 15 15:19:26 CEST 2025 <br />;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 85 <br /><br />Command completed on 2025-04-15 15:19 CEST (exit 0).</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;"><span style="background-color:#ffffff;"><span style="color:#54ff54;"><strong>vim@ideapad.lan</strong></span><span style="color:#000000;"> [</span><span style="color:#5454ff;"><strong>~</strong></span><span style="color:#000000;">] </span></span><br /><span style="background-color:#ffffff;"><span style="color:#18b218;">$</span><span style="color:#000000;"> dig mx vodafone.com </span></span><br /><br />; <<>> DiG 9.18.33-1~deb12u2-Debian <<>> mx vodafone.com <br />;; global options: +cmd <br />;; Got answer: <br />;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27159 <br />;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 <br /><br />;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: <br />; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232 <br />; COOKIE: 95311fe7ea087ec60100000067fe5f578027ba78e436d6f2 (good) <br />;; QUESTION SECTION: <br />;vodafone.com. IN MX <br /><br />;; ANSWER SECTION: <br />vodafone.com. 3600 IN MX 10 vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com. <br /><br />;; Query time: 60 msec <br />;; SERVER: 192.168.10.4#53(192.168.10.4) (UDP) <br />;; WHEN: Tue Apr 15 15:29:59 CEST 2025 <br />;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 125 <br /><br />Command completed on 2025-04-15 15:29 CEST (exit 0).</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">On Tuesday, 15 April 2025 15:20:01 CEST Sten Carlsen wrote:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Thanks</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> Sten</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > On 15 Apr 2025, at 14.54, Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> wrote:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Sorry for cross-posting -- mind it before replying.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Hi,</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > last night I sent 4 complaint messages to vodafone.com. The first one</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > bounced like so:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Your message to the following recipients cannot be delivered:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > <abusevfgr@vodafone.com>:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > <<< No such domain.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > The bounce has Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 05:21:45 +0200, the query log says:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > 15-Apr-2025 05:21:34.546 queries: info: client @0x7ff24383d168 ::1#44623</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > (_mta-sts.vodafone.com): view internal: query: _mta-sts.vodafone.com IN</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > TXT + (::1) 15-Apr-2025 05:21:34.658 queries: info: client</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > @0x7ff24383d168 ::1#54836 (vodafone.com): view internal: query:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > vodafone.com IN MX + (::1) 15-Apr-2025 05:21:34.686 queries: info: client</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > @0x7ff24224d168 ::1#52645 (vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com):</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > view internal: query: vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com IN AAAA +</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > (::1) 15-Apr-2025 05:21:35.526 queries: info: client @0x7ff24224d168</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > ::1#56049 (vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com): view internal:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > query: vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com IN A + (::1) 15-Apr-2025</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > 05:21:40.534 queries: info: client @0x7ff2422f9168 ::1#56049</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > (vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com): view internal: query:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com IN A + (::1)</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> All of this is the internal view. It suggests that there is some</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> misconfiguration in that view.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> From my location I see no issue:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> carlsen@Silver9-106 ~ % dig vodafone.com mx</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> vodafone.com mx</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; global options: +cmd</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; Got answer:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29271</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; QUESTION SECTION:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;vodafone.com. IN MX</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; ANSWER SECTION:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> vodafone.com. 3600 IN MX 10 vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; Query time: 36 msec</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; SERVER: 192.168.16.20#53(192.168.16.20)</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; WHEN: Tue Apr 15 15:15:45 CEST 2025</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 97</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> carlsen@Silver9-106 ~ % dig vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; global options: +cmd</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; Got answer:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 3165</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; QUESTION SECTION:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com. IN A</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; ANSWER SECTION:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com. 10 IN A 52.101.68.32</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com. 10 IN A 52.101.68.27</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com. 10 IN A 52.101.73.26</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> vodafone-com.mail.protection.outlook.com. 10 IN A 52.101.73.22</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; Query time: 114 msec</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; SERVER: 192.168.16.20#53(192.168.16.20)</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; WHEN: Tue Apr 15 15:18:56 CEST 2025</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 133</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > I guess the A queries failed. Isn't it possible to log the return code or</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > something?</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > There is no AAAA record. The A queries seem to have timed out after 5,</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > although in resolv.conf I have "options timeout: 10". IIRC Courier does</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > read resolv.conf. Why didn't it wait 10?</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > This is BIND 9.18.33-1~deb12u2-Debian and courier-1.3.13.20241204.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > TIA for any comment.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Best</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">> > Ale</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;"><br />-- </p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Met vriendelijke groet,</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Michael De Roover</p>
<br /><p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Mail: isc@nixmagic.com</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">Web: michael.de.roover.eu.org</p>
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