<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 21, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Paul Vixie <<a href="mailto:paul@redbarn.org" class="">paul@redbarn.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">indeed. back in the day, i was a member of mh-users and mh-workers, and this inspired me to create bind-users and bind-workers. the point was outreach and engagement to people who would help design and implement the software.<br class=""><br class="">vicky, i am unsure where discussions take place in the gitlab. help?<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>This is exactly the kind of discussions that usually take place in Gitlab. For example, if someone is proposing a change in the software, that proposal is normally debated there, on a ticket, where the code in question can be shared, reviewed, commented on and merged. Example of tickets like this with a lot of discussion: <a href="https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2066" class="">https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2066</a> , and <a href="https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2641" class="">https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2641</a>.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>If there is no software change being discussed, but just a question such as ‘How does SRTT work in BIND?’ and ‘Why?’ that kind of question is perfectly appropriate for BIND-users, where users, packagers, developers of other DNS software (anyone) and ISC developers can reply and discuss. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>There is no hidden desire here to stifle discussion - it is just that with the proliferation of other channels, including Gitlab, the DNS-OARC mattermost, dnsops and related mailing lists, having multiple lists for public discussion of BIND seems unnecessary. At any rate, the core team has trouble keeping up with all the lists, so we thought we would consolidate.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Vicky<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">paul<br class=""><br class="">re:<br class=""><br class="">Lars-Johan Liman wrote on 2022-01-21 05:29:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi Vicky!<br class="">I'm not opposed to closing this list if we can agree to use some<br class="">(several?) other forum(-a) for the (few!) issues that come up here -<br class="">e.g., general questions about design choices, observations of strange<br class="">behaviour, and/or suggestions of/discussions abuout new features.<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Cheers,<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span> /Liman<br class="">#----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""># Lars-Johan Liman, M.Sc. ! <a href="mailto:liman@netnod.se" class="">E-mail: liman@netnod.se</a><br class=""># Senior Systems Specialist ! Tel: +46 8 - 562 860 12<br class=""># Netnod Internet Exchange, Stockholm ! <a href="http://www.netnod.se/" class="">http://www.netnod.se/</a><br class="">#----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><a href="mailto:vicky@isc.org" class="">vicky@isc.org</a> 2022-01-20 17:16 [-0500]:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hello folks,<br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">We at ISC would like to shut down this list.<br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">We have bind-users, and bind-announce, and now that our development<br class="">environment, <a href="https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9" class="">https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9</a><br class=""><<a href="https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9" class="">https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9</a>> is completely open, this<br class="">list seems redundant. There are 540 people subscribed, but only a<br class="">handful actually post here.<br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">We will put the list into moderation, and plan to shut it down in<br class="">about a month. If anyone has a strong objection, speak up! Otherwise,<br class="">if you haven’t, go subscribe to <a href="mailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org" class="">bind-users@lists.isc.org</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org" class="">mailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org</a>>.<br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">Regards,<br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="">Vicky Risk, ISC<br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">bind-workers mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:bind-workers@lists.isc.org" class="">bind-workers@lists.isc.org</a><br class="">https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-workers<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">P Vixie<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>