different devices getting the same ip address
dorian33 at o2.pl
Tue Dec 13 21:16:44 UTC 2011
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Simon Hobson wrote:
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> dorian wrote:
>> Since I am registering (with another tools) all the IPs in the network I
>> know that there number of different IPs assigned (whenever) by DHCP
>> server is only 30924 which is significantly less than theoretically
>> possible 262142.
>> I have around 1000 users per day at the hotspot system. Some of them are
>> the same users some are 'accidental' ones.
>> The config lease times are following:
>> default-lease-time 86400;
>> max-lease-time 86400;
>> which means 24h
>> Since working hours of the hostpot are 8:00 - 22:00 and lease time is
>> 24h and the number of users is ~1000/day I do not understand why
>> sometimes a host obtains IP address being in use.
> Have you looked at the leases for these duplicate IPs ? The answer
> given to the OP was that the IP was leased to two "different" devices
> because as far as DHCP is concerned, they are the "same" client
> because they have the same Client ID.
>> BTW: the current dhcpd.leases file contains 503007 entries (entries not
>> Does it mean the file contains whole 'history' of the leases whenever
>> given? What for?
> Firstly, the leases file is a "log database" where updates are
> performed by writing a new record at the end o the file - this makes
> it fast and easy to do "safe" updates which are easily (and cheaply)
> synced to disk as required by the RFCs. Thus an active lease may have
> more than one entry - the last one is the correct version.
> To counter the file growing indefinitely until disk space is
> exhausted, it is rewritten periodically (every hour unless you change
> the code and recompile) with a fresh copy - at which point there will
> be exactly one record per lease.
> The second feature is that every lease ever given out is kept until
> such time as the address is re-used. Thus, if you had 1000 users one
> day, then a different 1000 users/devices the next day, you'd have 2000
> leases in the database. This too is required by the RFCs which specify
> that as far as is possible, a device should be given an address
> previously leased to it. Note that some other DHCP servers do not do
> it sounds like you have a high churn rate, and so lots of new users.
> Each of these will still have a lease recorded.
> If you wanted to override this, then there are a couple of things you
> could do.
> One is to stop the server, and write a script to clean out old records
> from the leases file.
> Another is to "rotate" the pool periodically. When the server starts
> up, any leases not within a defined range will be deleted. Thus if you
> had a range of say 172.16.8.0-172.16.255.255 one week, and the next
> week changed this to 172.17.0.0-172.17.255.255 then all the leases in
> the 172.16.n.n bock would get deleted.
> And on this, there is a performance issue you might wish to be aware
> of. On startup, the server will create in-memory records for every IP
> address in every range defined. Thus in your case, you are creating
> tables to track over half a million addresses - while your requirement
> seems to be only around 1000 per day. Memory requirements and startup
> times would be improved by creating a range that's better sized to
> your requirements - a few (tens of) thousands would seem more
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