<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Yup, we generally haven't been publishing an agenda, because, for along time, we'd mainly been having last minute / pop-up type presentations.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We'd also been trying to keep the tone of this informal, but this is what the agenda *currently* looks like:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Clusters of Re-Used Keys</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Stephen Farrell</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">20 minutes</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Indefensible Neighbors</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Joel Jaeggli</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">20 minutes</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Prefix hijacking - malicious? maybe not...</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Joel Jaeggli</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">10 minutes</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Dissecting DNS Defenses During DDoS Attacks</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Giovane C. M. Moura</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">20 minutes</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">We are starting at 9:00AM this time.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">W</font></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 8:35 PM Bernie Volz (volz) <<a href="mailto:volz@cisco.com">volz@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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It is always sad that there is no agenda published for this. Or if there is, I’ve never found it.<br>
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On Jun 28, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Warren Kumari <<a href="mailto:warren@kumari.net" target="_blank">warren@kumari.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:36 AM Warren Kumari <<a href="mailto:warren@kumari.net" target="_blank">warren@kumari.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">The IEPG is an informal gathering that meets on the Sunday prior to </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif">IETF meetings. The intended theme of these meetings is essentially
 one </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif">of operational relevance in some form or fashion - although the chair </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif">will readily admit that he will run with an agenda of whatever is on </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif">offer
 at the time!</span></div>
<div><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Previous
 presentations are here:<span> </span></span><a href="http://www.iepg.org/" rel="noreferrer" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">http://www.iepg.org/</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>.</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">
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<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">More
 info on the IEPG can be found in RFC 1690 -</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">
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 you have some sort of operationally relevant topic which you'd
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I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place.<br>
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_1987235006373594189gmail_signature">I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place.<br>
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants.<br>
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