Resending articles for previously unwanted newsgroups

Maarten Thibaut mthibaut at cisco.com
Sat Dec 30 20:43:47 UTC 2006


Hi,

I guess I'll try and answer my own question: it's possible to remove the 
unwanted groups from history (hisv6) like this, right?

ctlinnd throttle reason
grep -v -- '-$' history > history.new && mv history.new history && makedbz -o
ctlinnd go reason

--
maarten


> Hi,
>
> [newbie alert]
>
> We have a setup where an archive host receives all news groups from the
> main news server. When we want to start archiving a new group, articles
> already presented to the archive before we added the group cannot easily
> be added to the archive:
>
> Dec 25 18:42:21.751 - localhost <pipLf.467696$Zk6.434192 at news.example.com> 437 Unwanted newsgroup "example.test"
>
> I've tried:
>
> * Resending the articles already presented to the archive using ihave.
> Problem is, the server replies with 'Duplicate'.
>
> * Copying the article onto the tradspool. Problem here is that clients
> won't see the article because it's not in overview, even if low and high
> watermarks are fine. The server replies with '423 Bad article number' when
> using "group example.test" and "article <number>".
>
> * Running tdx-util on articles not in the overview fails because the
> history file doesn't contain the message id.
>
> * Running ctlinnd addhist for every article is slow and insecure, it
> requires the update scripts run by the webserver to get passwordless sudo
> privileges for ctlinnd.
>
> * Running makehistory to fix the problem is slow (250*10^6 articles,
> 750gig, a downtime of several days every time a group is added).
>
> We're using tradspool and the overview is tradindexed. Is there a better
> way to accomplish adding groups? Perhaps we should:
>
> * Write a program to manage the history DB directy and insert lists of
> entries so we can run tdx-util after adding the group and copying the
> articles onto the spool?
>
> * Write a different program to remove or expire the 'unwanted newsgroup'
> data from history so the articles can be presented to the server using
> ihave again?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help!
>
> maarten
>


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