enhance checkgroups handling
Julien ÉLIE
julien at trigofacile.com
Sun Aug 5 17:44:06 UTC 2007
En réponse à Russ Allbery :
>> Perhaps the else {} is useless. It is just to say that the checkgroups
>> was processed but we can also see that with the controlchan initial log.
>
> Yeah, I think we can drop that.
OK. I will drop it.
>> I suggest that the actions be really taken when there are changes
>> (newgroup and rmgroup) for PGP-signed control articles (with verify-*).
>> And to also change the descriptions in the newsgroups file.
>
> Yup.
It is indeed useful for instance with de.*, when they add/remove de.alt.*
newsgroups since no PGP-signed newgroup/rmgroup messages are sent for
them and they are only in de.* checkgroups.
And also for changes in the descriptions (as it happens sometimes).
>> I do not know whether it should also be done for a mere doit (without
>> PGP). Normally, it should not harm since people ask a "doit". Any
>> thought about that?
>
> If they say doit, we should honor their request, I think. It's not safe
> to do that with public hierarchies on the regular Usenet
I agree with you. I tend to think it would be better to honour such "doit"
actions. I asked this because of the default control.ctl behaviour:
For instance:
## AR (Argentina)
checkgroups:jorge_f at nodens.fisica.unlp.edu.ar:ar.*:doit
newgroup:jorge_f at nodens.fisica.unlp.edu.ar:ar.*:doit
rmgroup:jorge_f at nodens.fisica.unlp.edu.ar:ar.*:doit
Everyone can make a mess with checkgroups (2000 ar.* newsgroups created
in the row with a forged checkgroups... and then another checkgroups
which deletes them and afterwards another which...).
But well, this can currently also be done with newgroup/rmgroup articles
(but the mess is softer).
I do not know what to do with that. It can lead to possible attacks
(and on ftp.isc.org too by the way).
Wouldn't it be time to only allow PGP-signed control articles to be honoured?
(inviting current hierarchies maintainers to sign their control articles)
Active hierarchies are mostly PGP-managed, though.
[perhaps we should discuss that in news.admin.hierarchies]
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Julien ÉLIE
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