tdx-util/expire question and overchan question

[Julien ÉLIE]

Hi,

>>tdx-util: tradindexed: low water mark incorrect for tw.bbs.music.japan: 277375 != 277374
>>tdx-util: tradindexed: count incorrect for tw.bbs.music.japan: 19 != 20
>
> When such a thing occurs, what is the ouput of:
>
>    grep "tw.bbs.music.japan" /var/lib/news/active
>    tdx-util -i -n tw.bbs.music.japan
>
> The above gave me:
> tw.bbs.music.japan 0000277397 0000277392 y

You should try the same commands just after you receive such
an error from tdx-util.
As for tw.bbs.music.japan, it has been fixed since it occured.
(The low water mark is now 277392 -- and not 277374.)


>    HDR Xref 277374
>    HDR Xref 277375

Here, you will have to write the numbers in the output from tdx-util:
"277375 != 277374".


> In expireover the "-N" flag is ignored if groupbaseexpiry is set to false.

Oh, yes, you're right.


> That overview is just removed during news.daily if the article is removed from the spool and is done in a quiet mode.  That is my 
> best understanding of it.

OK.  That explains why expireover is done after expire when
groupbaseexpiry is set to false.  (Otherwise, expireover
is done before expire.)


> Yep, that is my understanding, it is in quit mode if groupbaseexpiry is false.  I don't know why and think this would be better if 
> it did not suppress the drop overview index.

In fact, it is not a problem of quietness.  ("Article lines processed"
is set to 0 during expireover with groupbaseexpiry set to false.)
However, you *do* have the information:

Your report:

    expire begin Sat Jan 17 03:00:58 PST 2009: (-v1 -N)
         Article lines processed  1046456
         Articles retained         961432
         Entries expired            85024
         Articles dropped           82999
    expire end Sat Jan 17 03:01:06 PST 2009
    expireover start Sat Jan 17 03:01:06 PST 2009
    expireover end Sat Jan 17 03:02:02 PST 2009


A report from news.ecp.fr:

    expireover start Sat Jan 17 04:15:37 CET 2009: ( -z/var/log/news/expire.rm -Z/var/log/news/expire.lowmark)
        Article lines processed  1776266
        Articles dropped           67053
        Overview index dropped     67621
    expireover end Sat Jan 17 04:45:22 CET 2009
    expire begin Sat Jan 17 04:52:11 CET 2009: (-v1)
        Article lines processed  1643389
        Articles retained        1581870
        Entries expired            61519
    expire end Sat Jan 17 05:09:42 CET 2009


A report from news.trigofacile.com:

    expireover start samedi 17 janvier 2009, 04:15:37 (UTC+0100): ( -z/var/log/news/expire.rm -Z/var/log/news/expire.lowmark)
        Article lines processed   651413
        Articles dropped              68
        Overview index dropped        68
    expireover end samedi 17 janvier 2009, 04:48:41 (UTC+0100)
    expire begin samedi 17 janvier 2009, 04:49:12 (UTC+0100): (-v1)
        Article lines processed  3212213
        Articles retained        3208212
        Entries expired             4001
    expire end samedi 17 janvier 2009, 05:06:12 (UTC+0100)


The information about "Overview index dropped" is probably
related to you "Articles dropped".

-- 
Julien ÉLIE

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