Retired old INN Subversion and Trac sites

Julien ÉLIE julien at trigofacile.com
Sun Jan 7 21:46:55 UTC 2024


Hi Russ,

> I'm fairly dubious of the value of the Trac database and the inn.eyrie.org
> web site that was generated from it.  It was an experiment I tried some
> time ago; Julien was the only person who used it much, and primarily
> (only?) the issues.  There were maybe a couple of pages of general
> information other than the issues, and the issues were all copied to
> GitHub.

Yes, I confirm the whole contents of the Trac database is on GitHub. 
The general information was added to README and HACKING when not already 
present, and all the tickets are in GitHub.  I checked them individually 
at that time (some attached files were missing, and the migration script 
took the original descriptions of Trac tickets instead of the edited 
ones when a modification happened) and updated the URL links that were 
no longer working.
I remember you also fixed a few nits like #nnn references and formatting.


> If anyone wants to explore the historical development of INN, the
> resource that you want is the mailing list archives (which are archived at
> ISC back to 1999 and I believe can be downloaded from there).

It would indeed be useful to back up somewhere these mailing-list 
archives as lists.isc.org does not seem that reliable.  For instance, 
the archives of the inn-announce mailing-list have recently been lost. 
The ISC folks confirmed they no longer have them.
The oldest archived mail dates back to 2009...
     https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/inn-announce/

I hope the inn-workers mailing-list and the formerly used inn-patches 
and inn-bugs ones won't suffer from the same loss...


Also, while we're at speaking about archiving, a great resource is 
Forrest Cavalier's web site:
     http://www.mibsoftware.com/userkt/userkt.html

Unfortunately, most of the pages are password-restricted, and when I 
asked him a decade ago, he had not the intention of making them public 
but to remove them entirely one day as they are stale and no longer updated.
Looking at the site again, it could be the start of a great "wiki", with 
tons of troubleshooting information and advices of setup.  Naturally, it 
would need a bit of cleanup and update with the current state of INN 
2.x.  Most of the questions still seem interesting and applicable to INN 
2.x (I do not have access to the answers to see how much work it would 
be to update it, though).
Anyway, to start with, if someone manages to convince Forrest to 
de-protect his pages and archive the web site, it would be interesting 
for the history of INN.  (Reviving the site is another story.)


> (Julien is of course welcome to correct me on all of this and remind me of
> anything big that I've forgotten when he sees this.)

You're totally right, everything of interest have successfully been 
moved into GitHub.

I also wish to benefit from this message to thank you, Russ, for having 
provided for many years that infrastructure.

And happy new year all!

-- 
Julien ÉLIE

« Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real?  What
   if you were unable to wake from that dream?  How would you know the
   difference, between the dream world and the real world? » (Morpheus,
   _Matrix_)


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