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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I was unclear, I am sorry. I was thinking about an option to add / select the field displayed to the right of the screen in stork right now, i.e., changing Kea Subnet ID into “comment” or something else that would be more useful. Or allow users to pick a field in there. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=1635 height=560 style='width:17.0333in;height:5.8333in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01DAA045.C2E55D10"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Kea-users <kea-users-bounces@lists.isc.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Darren Ankney<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 7, 2024 6:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> Kea user's list <kea-users@lists.isc.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Kea-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: Two questions regarding to kea subnet configuration<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Marek,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes: Services -> Kea Apps -> Click on the Name you are interested in (e.g., <a href="mailto:kea@127.0.0.1">kea@127.0.0.1</a>) -> "Raw Configuration"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Darren Ankney<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 8:00<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM <<a href="mailto:mxhajduczenia@gmail.com">mxhajduczenia@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>Settings are pretty underwhelming so I assume that section would be somewhere else?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext><img border=0 width=1029 height=413 style='width:10.7166in;height:4.3in' id="m_-968284684911636910Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.png@01DAA045.C2E55D10"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Kea-users <<a href="mailto:kea-users-bounces@lists.isc.org" target="_blank">kea-users-bounces@lists.isc.org</a>> On Behalf Of Darren Ankney<br>Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 3:55 AM<br>To: Kea user's list <kea-us<a href="mailto:ers@lists.isc.org" target="_blank">ers@lists.isc.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Kea-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: Two questions regarding to kea subnet configuration<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>Hi Marek,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> and just wish they were visible in Stork<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>They sort of are but probably not in the way you are hoping. There is an area where you can view the raw Kea configuration. They would be shown there.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>Darren Ankney<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 10:27<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM Marek Hajduczenia <<a href="mailto:mxhajduczenia@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mxhajduczenia@gmail.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> I did look at it but it is a highly ineffective way of doing such <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> classification. I do not have much commonality between individual <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> subnets and adding extra complexity of tracking them via client <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> classes is not worth the effort IMHO. I will see what I can do with <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> comments, and just wish they were visible in Stork, via – perhaps, a <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> customizable field. Right now, having several [1] prefixes is hard to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> track<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Marek<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> From: David Farje <<a href="mailto:davidabelfarje@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>davidabelfarje@gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 12:12 PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> To: Kea user's list <<a href="mailto:kea-users@lists.isc.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>kea-users@lists.isc.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Cc: <a href="mailto:mxhajduczenia@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mxhajduczenia@gmail.com</span></a>; Xiao, Yu (CCI-Atlanta) <<a href="mailto:yu.xiao@cox.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>yu.xiao@cox.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Subject: Re: [Kea-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: Two questions regarding to kea <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> subnet configuration<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> You can use client classes. You can create a client class with only <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> the "name" parameter and associate the subnet with the client class. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> That way the subnet object has a descriptive string you can use to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> reference. See the following<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <a href="https://kea.readthedocs.io/en/kea-2.2.0/arm/classify.html#configuring-" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://kea.readthedocs.io/en/kea-2.2.0/arm/classify.html#configuring-</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> subnets-with-class-information<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> David<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:47<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM Xiao, Yu (CCI-Atlanta) via Kea-users <<a href="mailto:kea-users@lists.isc.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>kea-users@lists.isc.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> I agree, So if we have string name for those subnets, we can use our tools to manipulate those information much easier and people who use them will understand easier. It’s better we have another non-key ID as Marek suggested.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Yu<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> From: Kea-users <<a href="mailto:kea-users-bounces@lists.isc.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>kea-users-bounces@lists.isc.org</span></a>> on behalf of Marek <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Hajduczenia <<a href="mailto:mxhajduczenia@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mxhajduczenia@gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Date: Monday, May 6, 2024 at 12:31<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> To: 'Kea user's list' <<a href="mailto:kea-users@lists.isc.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>kea-users@lists.isc.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Kea-users] Two questions regarding to kea <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> subnet configuration<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> I understand the scaling factor and just throwing it out there – it would help to have perhaps non-key ID to search for, say “name” or something in the line of, making it a more unique value to search for.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> From: Kea-users <<a href="mailto:kea-users-bounces@lists.isc.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>kea-users-bounces@lists.isc.org</span></a>> On Behalf Of David <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Farje<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 10:13 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> To: Kea user's list <<a href="mailto:kea-users@lists.isc.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>kea-users@lists.isc.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Subject: Re: [Kea-users] Two questions regarding to kea subnet <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> configuration<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Definitely string ID is nicer to manage. The thing is, Kea seems to be designed to support a large number of subnets and DB backend. In this case it is better to use an integer because I don't think you want a string based primary key on a DB table with millions of entries.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Regarding your second question I believe you may find some answers here:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <a href="https://kea.readthedocs.io/en/kea-2.4.0/arm/dhcp4-srv.html#address-all" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://kea.readthedocs.io/en/kea-2.4.0/arm/dhcp4-srv.html#address-all</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> ocation-strategies-in-dhcpv4<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> David<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 9:21<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>AM <<a href="mailto:mxhajduczenia@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mxhajduczenia@gmail.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> I can confirm – the lack of support for string ID is pretty annoying right now, and forces me to create ranges for specific applications, which will not scale well in production.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> On the second one, I observed that it goes numerically from the bottom of the pool range up, so ::2, ::3, etc. In ISC, it seems to have been random selection from the pool, with attempt made to populate all stanzas. Kea seems to prefer numerically incrementing assignment, which is pretty bad for security purposes (if a user knows it, they can pretty much guess previous assignments). I preferred personally the old ISC way of doing things.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Marek<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> From: Kea-users <<a href="mailto:kea-users-bounces@lists.isc.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>kea-users-bounces@lists.isc.org</span></a>> On Behalf Of Xiao, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Yu (CCI-Atlanta) via Kea-users<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 6:10 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> To: Kea user's list <<a href="mailto:kea-users@lists.isc.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>kea-users@lists.isc.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Cc: Xiao, Yu (CCI-Atlanta) <<a href="mailto:yu.xiao@cox.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>yu.xiao@cox.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Subject: [Kea-users] Two questions regarding to kea subnet <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> configuration<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> Greetings,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m-968284684911636910msoplaintext>> I have two questions related to the kea design. First, seems currently we can only assign numeric IDs to subnets, but for subnet management, it’s more convenient to use a string, is it possible to add this feature? Second, how kea design to distribute the ip addresses inside of the subnet esp ipv6 subnet? Is it totally random? 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