PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT: BIND-Members Forum

[Lawrence Chan]

Hello,

Joseph S D Yao wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 02:11:25PM +0800, Lawrence Chan wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Joseph S D Yao wrote:
> >
> > > And just for fun you repeat this FUD twice.
> >
> > Firstly, I am not Amdalh (I hope I spelled the name right) and have no products for
> > IBM to FUD.  I am not working on any open-source DNS product in competition with
> > BIND.  So I don't really know what you mean by FUD.
>
> You don't have to be a company like Amdahl or IBM or Microsoft to
> spread Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt [aka FUD].

Could you be specific as to what Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt that I am spreading here?
I am a BIND user too.

> > Your scenarios (though you yourself mentioned at the end of your email that they
> > are exaggerated) while not answering my concern of whether we are handling the
> > problem with the right solution, in fact help make my point.  Just because people
> > reacted badly to the first major (and with no precedence) DNS problem does not give
> > you the right to play God (or Goddess which ever strike your fancy.)  I presume
>
> I have no rights in the matter.  The owners of the BIND code, however,
> DO.

It is these self-serving anecdotes (assuming that you're actually speaking on behalf of
BIND owners) that would give BIND a bad name.

> > you've heard of the notion of learning curve.  And by expounding purposeful
>
> Yes.  I have observed it to be flat in the case of many management
> types.

Again, who are you to judge?!  And the notion of learning curve is not some curve that
you can use but a behavioral fact that people react to new and unprecedented things
differently than when they are familiar with them.

> > disinformation (a delayed information is no information) would not solve the
>
> That definition is itself interesting disinformation.

Again,  anecdotes.  Could you elaborate.  Otherwise, people would read it as bugs from
BIND software are harmless and non-infectuous so long as ISC et al has not announced to
the public and users as such.  They are harmful only after ISC has announced them.  And
whether users are actually at risk during the period between the bug's existence
acknowledged by ISC and its subsequent public announcement is caveat emptor.  Frankly,
not even software developed and sold solely for profit would do a thing like that to
their customers, let alone an important software like BIND, started and implemented under
the pretext of open-source.    And if this were true, why bother to announce the bugs at
all.  Just keep quiet and all your bugs would be gone.

> > underlying problem that BIND users and their transactions with the net are being
> > put in unnecessary risk during these blackout period, through no fault of their
> > own.  And who is going to be responsible if financial loss should occur during
> > these periods by them unknowingly keeping their servers on?  You?  Have you thought
> > about this potential negligence when conjured up your scenarios?  Besides, I think
> > those 50% of bosses deserve a lot more credit than you've given them, given the
> > situation.
>
> You haven't tried to work with them.

Again, could you elaborate as to why your being so pissed off by your past experience
with the bosses have anything to do with the bug disinformation issue here.


Lawrence Chan
lchan at montevino.com