reverse zone for < class C???

Mark.Andrews at nominum.com Mark.Andrews at nominum.com
Sat Jun 30 13:59:35 UTC 2001


> 
> Ha!  I just feel like I needed to comment here.  The e-mail address is
> real...  Just try it:)  I have my own mail server (and domain of course) and
> I create e-mail addresses just for usenet for the sake of filtering.  Why
> does it seem like people always assume without testing?

	Because we have sent too many pieces of mail in the past to
	addresses like this trying to help someone only to have it
	bounce back.  This is why people look at the address, so that
	they don't have to deal with the bounce back.  When you are
	the postmaster at a large site you have to actually read the
	bounce backs because they could be indictating a problem with
	your own software.  The last thing you want to do is generate
	more work for yourself.
	
	If you want a filter mailbox use something like
	"filtered at 2thebatcave.com".  People might actually send to
	that address without assuming that they will get a bounce back.

> 
> Also, I asked the guy that is supposed to know everything at the ISP and he
> didn't know.  The problem being, of course, that whenever I start asking
> myself questions I never seem to get anywhere...

	You got somewhere.  You have the RFC which covers this.  You
	also have the archive of the mailing list where this has been
	discussed many times over the last few years.

	I recommend <start>-<end>.3.2.1.in-addr.arpa for the
	subzone name, rather than <start>-<masklen>.3.2.1.in-addr.arpa
	as the format is more general.  It's also less error prone
	as you will find if you read the other messages in the list
	this week.

	I also recommend that the servers for
	<start>-<end>.3.2.1.in-addr.arpa are also a servers for
	3.2.1.in-addr.arpa (official or stealth) so that the site
	can resolve names internally when the connection to the
	outside world is down.

	Mark
> 
> 
> 
> "Michael Kjorling" <michael at kjorling.com> wrote in message
> news:9hilv9$o0u at pub3.rc.vix.com...
> 
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> Read RFC 2317 and talk to your ISP. It explains how to do this
> properly. For example, here's my setup:
> 
> In named.conf:
> zone "192-28.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa" in {
>         type master;
>         file "zones/masters/named.192-28.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa";
>         allow-transfer { slaves; };
>         allow-query { any; };
> };
> 
> In zones/masters/named.192-28.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa:
> $ORIGIN 192-28.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa.
> $TTL 1D
> @ IN SOA ulv.mcpoolen.se. hostmaster.mcpoolen.se. (
>         2001062501  ; Serial
>         1H  ; Refresh
>         30M  ; Retry
>         2W  ; Expire
>         1D )  ; Default-TTL
> @ IN NS ulv.mcpoolen.se.
> @ IN NS varg.mcpoolen.se.
> 194 IN PTR farkas.mcpoolen.se.
> 197 IN PTR ulv.mcpoolen.se.
> 200 IN PTR susi.mcpoolen.se.
> 201 IN PTR waya.mcpoolen.se.
> 204 IN PTR varg.mcpoolen.se.
> 206 IN PTR lupus.mcpoolen.se.
> 
> My ISP has delegated it like this:
> 192-28.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS     ulv.mcpoolen.se.
> 192-28.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN NS     varg.mcpoolen.se.
> 192.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN   CNAME
> 192.192-28.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa.
> 193.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN   CNAME
> 193.192-28.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa.
> 194.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN   CNAME
> 194.192-28.238.88.213.in-addr.arpa.
> ; ...
> 
> Also, drop the nospam crap. The comp.protocols.dns.bind newsgroup is
> gatewayed (two-way) into a mailing list, and stuff like that will
> never buy you anything except annoyed people. I have been very active
> on this list for the last three months, and never got even one spam
> mail because of it.
> 
> 
> Michael Kjörling
> 
> 
> On Jun 29 2001 12:27 -0500, Q wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to setup a reverse zone for half of a class C allocated to us.
> > However, I can't seem to get it working.  If I setup the named.conf like:
> >
> > zone "128.180.188.208.IN-ADDR.ARPA"{
> >         type master;
> >         file "128.180.188.208.in-addr.arpa";
> > };
> >
> > and the file like:
> >
> >
> > @               IN      SOA     ns1.domain.net.
> administrator.domain.net.
> > (
> >                         2001062902 ; serial
> >                         3600 ; refresh
> >                         900 ; retry
> >                         1209600 ; expire
> >                         3600 ; default_ttl
> >                         )
> > 129             IN      PTR     gw2.domain.net.
> > 130             IN      PTR     gw.domain.net.
> > 131             IN      PTR     max1.domain.net.
> > 163             IN      PTR     news.domain.net.
> > 128             IN      NS      ns1.domain.net.
> > 128             IN      NS      ns2.domain.net.
> >
> >
> > it will not work at all even on servers that use it for the DNS server.
> > However, if I change it to this:
> >
> >
> > zone "180.188.208.IN-ADDR.ARPA"{
> >         type master;
> >         file "128.180.188.208.in-addr.arpa";
> > };
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > @               IN      SOA     ns1.domain.net.
> administrator.domain.net.
> > (
> >                         2001062902 ; serial
> >                         3600 ; refresh
> >                         900 ; retry
> >                         1209600 ; expire
> >                         3600 ; default_ttl
> >                         )
> > 129             IN      PTR     gw2.domain.net.
> > 130             IN      PTR     gw.domain.net.
> > 131             IN      PTR     max1.domain.net.
> > 163             IN      PTR     news.domain.net.
> > @               IN      NS      ns1.domain.net.
> > @               IN      NS      ns2.domain.net.
> >
> > Then it works servers that have it as the DNS server, but of course I am
> > telling it that it has the whole class C when it does not.  And if I leave
> > it this way, then it does not work remotely when another name server tries
> > to do a reverse lookup.  I assume that this is because I technically don't
> > have the right zone setup.  Does anyone have any ideas or an example of
> how
> > to setup a reverse zone for half a class C?
> >
> >
> 
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