Odd result for a redeleageted domain

Simon Dodd simon.dodd at joink.com
Fri Aug 24 19:01:12 UTC 2007


I have what seems like an odd issue. It's something of a moot point in that 
I'm pretty sure that whatever the issue is, it's on the authoritative side 
(which we don't control), but a customer brought it to us, it's a little odd 
and I'd like to understand what's going on.

The authoritative name servers for thereddress.com at the parent zone are 
ns1.buyhttp.com and ns2.buyhttp.com. The "correct" IP for 
www.thereddresser.com is 67.18.164.50. If I look up that record directly at 
the listed name servers that's the IP I get back:

    [simon at linux1 simon]$ dig www.thereddresser.com @ns1.buyhttp.com +short 
thereddresser.com.
    67.18.164.50
    [simon at linux1 simon]$ dig www.thereddresser.com @ns2.buyhttp.com +short 
thereddresser.com.
    67.18.164.50

If I run a DNS report on the domain name, 
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=thereddresser.com, it 
reports that although the authoritative name servers for thereddress.com at 
the parent zone are ns1.buyhttp.com and ns2.buyhttp.com, the NS records at 
the nameservers are ns1.mosmenu.com and ns2.mosmenu.com.

If I look the domain up on our recursors (all four run BIND 9) they get 
back:

    % dig www.thereddresser.com +trace

    <<snip>>

    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    www.thereddresser.com.  47m38s IN A     8.15.231.100

    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    thereddresser.com.      1h27m43s IN NS  ns1.mosmenu.com.
    thereddresser.com.      1h27m43s IN NS  ns2.mosmenu.com.

    ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
    ns1.mosmenu.com.        1d5h20m2s IN A  8.15.231.100
    ns2.mosmenu.com.        1d5h20m2s IN A  8.15.231.100

Which, of course, is the wrong IP. Apparently - take with a pinch of salt - 
this is working for customers of other ISPs than mine. Nevertheless, 
querying Verizon's name servers, I see that they get the right answer:

    [simon at linux1 simon]$ dig www.thereddresser.com @4.2.2.1 +short 
thereddresser.com.
    67.18.164.50
    [simon at linux1 simon]$ dig www.thereddresser.com @4.2.2.2 +short 
thereddresser.com.
    67.18.164.50

Ours don't:

    [simon at linux1 simon]$ dig www.thereddresser.com @12.109.94.4 +short 
8.15.231.100
    [simon at linux1 simon]$ dig www.thereddresser.com @12.109.94.5 +short 
8.15.231.100

Another customer today brought an identical problem to me with the domain 
fccparis.org, which has an identical DNS setup - BuyHTTP redelgated to 
MosMenu. So what would be causing this? Seemingly, the ns1.buyhttp.com 
provide one answer but also delegate to the other pair, each providing 
different answers. The closest that I can understand would be that if the 
auth provider is running bind, the zone file at ns1 and 2.buyhttp.com would 
be something like this:

    @        IN     NS  ns1.mosmenu.com.
    @        IN     NS  ns2.mosmenu.com.
    @        IN     A  67.18.164.50
    www    IN     CNAME  @

Are my name servers broken because they're querying the "mosmenu" pair (and 
if not, why aren't verizons) or is their (BuyHTTP's) config completely 
screwy - and if the latter (out of curiosity) how and why would you create 
such a result?

Regards,

Simon Dodd,
Hostmaster,
Joink Internet

E: simon.dodd at joinkllc.com
T: +1 (812) 234 5100 x116
F: +1 (812) 234 5144

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