sporadic, noaa.gov SERVFAIL

Darcy Kevin (FCA) kevin.darcy at fcagroup.com
Tue Feb 3 18:38:28 UTC 2015


Which way did you configure your EDNS buffer size? I think there's a not-so-subtle difference between doing it in "options" _versus_ in a "server" clause (despite the "server" being defined as 0.0.0.0/0 or ::/0). "server" seems to only affect queries that named itself generates to nameservers, whereas the "options" settings seems to also affect what named will negotiate to when responding to clients. 

EDNS buffer-size negotiation is point-to-point, not end-to-end. This might explain why your queries are working, with a smaller EDNS buffer size, on the nameserver-to-nameserver end of things, while at the same time you still see a 4096 buffer size for the client-to-resolver side.

												- Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: bind-users-bounces at lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces at lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Brad Bendily
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 5:33 PM
To: Mark Andrews
Cc: bind-users at lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: sporadic, noaa.gov SERVFAIL

For some reason, I had set:
"edns-udp-size 4096;"

I switched it to:
"edns-udp-size 1432;"
as you suggested and for now the problem appears to be resolved.
but the dig still shows "udp: 4096" which seems odd.

At least this lets me work for now until I can get the firewalls fixed upstream.

cs99la50:~ # dig www.nhc.noaa.gov

; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-P2 <<>> www.nhc.noaa.gov ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40890 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 12, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 7

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096


Thanks
bb

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Andrews [mailto:marka at isc.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:24 PM
To: Brad Bendily
Cc: bind-users at lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: sporatic, noaa.gov SERVFAIL


In message <F5FC122448E1BA4A8D6D2119430B41D54724C782 at MAILMB06.swe.la.gov>, Brad  Bendily writes:
> Doesn't succed all the way. so I assume somewhere up the chain, 
> firewalls a= re either blocking=20 EDNS, or fragmenting the packets?
> Any way for me to pinpoint the specific firewall?
> We are an agency, behind another agency.=20 So I don't think it's our 
> immediate hop, but was hoping I could point direc= tly to the problem 
> router/firewall.

See if adding "+bufsize=1432" lets you get a response.  This allows for a IPv4 in IPv6 or IPv6 in IPv4 tunnel without fragmention over Ethernet.
Named and dig will fallback to TCP if needed.

You can tell named to advertise this size with

	edns-udp-size 1432;

or
	server 0.0.0.0/0 { edns-udp-size 1432; };

	server ::/0 { edns-udp-size 1432; };

for just IPv4 and IPv6 respectively.  Longest match wins with server clauses so if you have more specific entries you will need to add this to them also.

I've got a broken NAT which doesn't handle out of order fragments so I use

	server 0.0.0.0/0 { edns-udp-size 1432; };

The best solution however is to fix the firewall.

Mark

> dig +trace +all +dnssec www.nhc.noaa.gov
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.9.6-P1 <<>> +trace +all +dnssec www.nhc.noaa.gov ;; 
> global options: +cmd ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 54198 ;; flags: qr 
> ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 14, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 25
> 
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;.				IN	NS
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> .			502864	IN	NS	g.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	j.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	a.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	m.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	c.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	l.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	i.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	b.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	f.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	e.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	k.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	h.root-servers.net.
> .			502864	IN	NS	d.root-servers.net.
> .			518385	IN	RRSIG	NS 8 0 518400 20150208170000 20
> 150129160000 16665 . wBP=
> +DfP/H1T7T267f+aUmqZFa6L0xAkPh2CGu1jQo8Z5+1kcchA6v0Ee 
> +BFlVI90eFFgLrFJKugBq4=
> XozHW5Uj7HQHP9dPPI0W4z2u4380vM/Rdbq 
> xRB8nesg66eWEghiocUvG2pUCIBfE60ReAu9lFk=
> tYTQWNHoSFOjMLhS0 1Fg=3D
> 
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> a.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	198.41.0.4
> a.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:503:ba3e::2:30
> b.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	192.228.79.201
> b.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:500:84::b
> c.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	192.33.4.12
> c.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:500:2::c
> d.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	199.7.91.13
> d.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:500:2d::d
> e.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	192.203.230.10
> f.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	192.5.5.241
> f.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:500:2f::f
> g.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	192.112.36.4
> h.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	128.63.2.53
> h.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:500:1::803f:235
> i.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	192.36.148.17
> i.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:7fe::53
> j.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	192.58.128.30
> j.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:503:c27::2:30
> k.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	193.0.14.129
> k.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:7fd::1
> l.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	199.7.83.42
> l.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:500:3::42
> m.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	A	202.12.27.33
> m.root-servers.net.	502867	IN	AAAA	2001:dc3::35
> 
> ;; Query time: 0 msec
> ;; SERVER: 10.120.11.85#53(10.120.11.85) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 29 16:12:31 
> CST 2015 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 913
> 
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 38806 ;; flags: 
> qr; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 4
> 
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.nhc.noaa.gov.		IN	A
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> gov.			172800	IN	NS	a.gov-servers.net.
> gov.			172800	IN	NS	b.gov-servers.net.
> gov.			86400	IN	DS	7698 8 1 6F109B46A80CEA9613DC86
> D5A3E065520505AAFE
> gov.			86400	IN	DS	7698 8 2 6BC949E638442EAD0BDAF0
> 935763C8D003760384FF15EBB=
> D5CE86BB5 559561F0
> gov.			86400	IN	RRSIG	DS 8 1 86400 20150208170000 201
> 50129160000 16665 . uc=
> jpVlvTDORdbUPC8Be67uAeVplPFOV5b+5Ej6dOIjEdreiVp8Xqw5ro 
> jpVlvTDORdbUPC8Be67uAeVplPFOV5b+fh4VmLa+/TvdwPLr2uZD=
> 5Cm7uPI5t+Ux477CYEaWGVQO5Jguc1xvwo/U 
> 5Cm7uPI5t+lEoI177BjHdTM2PTrp+woZQp1SpIINIBidmidi=
> c3dPWuDLzQIGscFlVn S1I=3D
> 
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> a.gov-servers.net.	172800	IN	A	69.36.157.30
> b.gov-servers.net.	172800	IN	A	209.112.123.30
> a.gov-servers.net.	172800	IN	AAAA	2001:500:4431::2:30
> 
> ;; Query time: 43 msec
> ;; SERVER: 193.0.14.129#53(193.0.14.129) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 29 16:12:31 
> CST 2015 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 395
> 
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 57350 ;; flags: 
> qr; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 6, ADDITIONAL: 7
> 
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 1472 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.nhc.noaa.gov.		IN	A
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> noaa.gov.		86400	IN	NS	ns-e.noaa.gov.
> noaa.gov.		86400	IN	NS	ns-mw.noaa.gov.
> noaa.gov.		86400	IN	NS	ns-nw.noaa.gov.
> noaa.gov.		3600	IN	DS	19789 5 1 F26B21B0C8365F80A8522
> 1BA8CC6DF40CC73B05B
> noaa.gov.		3600	IN	DS	19789 5 2 ABA039285FD7FA9D26020
> 6DD4C12D93CE346644A753=
> 16A143A27883D E93FA35B
> noaa.gov.		3600	IN	RRSIG	DS 8 2 3600 20150205175724 2015
> 0129175724 4352 gov=
> . wB2UOo0xqtc9SX7uy4DiOlZkfret3kcdB9IDG93d5M28flNhhLnZSgSU 
> K2ZFyjnlqb25k0Z8=
> uca2tSSpb8hOPldsvvKG8Rgs7x48+fgXciY2ovPn 
> uca2tSSpb8hOPldsvvKG8Rgs7x48+mzKedfsgTVtXGgjZsLAVovTY2y3weio1YU=
> SEziLeM9++yaJ0REA6JiQq 3HM=3D
> 
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns-e.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	A	140.90.33.237
> ns-mw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	A	140.172.17.237
> ns-nw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	A	161.55.32.2
> ns-e.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	AAAA	2610:20:8000:8c00::237
> ns-mw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	AAAA	2610:20:8800:8c00::237
> ns-nw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	AAAA	2610:20:8c00:8c00::2
> 
> ;; Query time: 18 msec
> ;; SERVER: 209.112.123.30#53(209.112.123.30) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 29 
> 16:12:45 CST 2015 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 483
> 
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Andrews [mailto:marka at isc.org]=20
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:38 PM
> To: Brad Bendily
> Cc: bind-users at lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: sporatic, noaa.gov SERVFAIL
> 
> 
> Ensure your firewall passes fragmented UDP packets.
> 
> 	dig +trace +all +dnssec www.nhc.noaa.gov
> 
> should succeed.  You will notice that the responses are large.
> 
> Mark
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0pre-alpha <<>> +trace +all +dnssec www.nhc.noaa.gov 
> ;; glo= bal options: +cmd ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41145 ;; flags: qr 
> aa; =
> QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 14, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
> 
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;.				IN	NS
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> .			518400	IN	NS	e.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	i.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	h.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	g.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	b.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	l.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	j.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	m.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	c.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	f.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	a.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	d.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	NS	k.root-servers.net.
> .			518400	IN	RRSIG	NS 8 0 518400 20150208170000 20
> 150129160000 16665 . wBP=
> +DfP/H1T7T267f+aUmqZFa6L0xAkPh2CGu1jQo8Z5+1kcchA6v0Ee 
> +BFlVI90eFFgLrFJKugBq4=
> XozHW5Uj7HQHP9dPPI0W4z2u4380vM/Rdbq 
> xRB8nesg66eWEghiocUvG2pUCIBfE60ReAu9lFk=
> tYTQWNHoSFOjMLhS0 1Fg=3D
> 
> ;; Query time: 0 msec
> ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
> ;; WHEN: Fri Jan 30 08:35:07 EST 2015
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 397
> 
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 37128 ;; flags: 
> qr; QUE=
> RY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 4
> 
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.nhc.noaa.gov.		IN	A
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> gov.			172800	IN	NS	a.gov-servers.net.
> gov.			172800	IN	NS	b.gov-servers.net.
> gov.			86400	IN	DS	7698 8 1 6F109B46A80CEA9613DC86
> D5A3E065520505AAFE
> gov.			86400	IN	DS	7698 8 2 6BC949E638442EAD0BDAF0
> 935763C8D003760384FF15EBB=
> D5CE86BB5 559561F0
> gov.			86400	IN	RRSIG	DS 8 1 86400 20150208170000 201
> 50129160000 16665 . uc=
> jpVlvTDORdbUPC8Be67uAeVplPFOV5b+5Ej6dOIjEdreiVp8Xqw5ro 
> jpVlvTDORdbUPC8Be67uAeVplPFOV5b+fh4VmLa+/TvdwPLr2uZD=
> 5Cm7uPI5t+Ux477CYEaWGVQO5Jguc1xvwo/U 
> 5Cm7uPI5t+lEoI177BjHdTM2PTrp+woZQp1SpIINIBidmidi=
> c3dPWuDLzQIGscFlVn S1I=3D
> 
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> a.gov-servers.net.	172800	IN	A	69.36.157.30
> b.gov-servers.net.	172800	IN	A	209.112.123.30
> a.gov-servers.net.	172800	IN	AAAA	2001:500:4431::2:30
> 
> ;; Query time: 180 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.228.79.201#53(192.228.79.201) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan 30 
> 08:35:07 E= ST 2015 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 395
> 
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 43552 ;; flags: 
> qr; QUE=
> RY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 6, ADDITIONAL: 7
> 
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 1472 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.nhc.noaa.gov.		IN	A
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> noaa.gov.		86400	IN	NS	ns-e.noaa.gov.
> noaa.gov.		86400	IN	NS	ns-mw.noaa.gov.
> noaa.gov.		86400	IN	NS	ns-nw.noaa.gov.
> noaa.gov.		3600	IN	DS	19789 5 1 F26B21B0C8365F80A8522
> 1BA8CC6DF40CC73B05B
> noaa.gov.		3600	IN	DS	19789 5 2 ABA039285FD7FA9D26020
> 6DD4C12D93CE346644A753=
> 16A143A27883D E93FA35B
> noaa.gov.		3600	IN	RRSIG	DS 8 2 3600 20150205175724 2015
> 0129175724 4352 gov=
> . wB2UOo0xqtc9SX7uy4DiOlZkfret3kcdB9IDG93d5M28flNhhLnZSgSU 
> K2ZFyjnlqb25k0Z8=
> uca2tSSpb8hOPldsvvKG8Rgs7x48+fgXciY2ovPn 
> uca2tSSpb8hOPldsvvKG8Rgs7x48+mzKedfsgTVtXGgjZsLAVovTY2y3weio1YU=
> SEziLeM9++yaJ0REA6JiQq 3HM=3D
> 
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns-e.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	A	140.90.33.237
> ns-mw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	A	140.172.17.237
> ns-nw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	A	161.55.32.2
> ns-e.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	AAAA	2610:20:8000:8c00::237
> ns-mw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	AAAA	2610:20:8800:8c00::237
> ns-nw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	AAAA	2610:20:8c00:8c00::2
> 
> ;; Query time: 172 msec
> ;; SERVER: 69.36.157.30#53(69.36.157.30) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan 30 08:35:08 
> EST 2=
> 015 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 483
> 
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59153 ;; flags: qr 
> aa; =
> QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 15, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 13
> 
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.nhc.noaa.gov.		IN	A
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.nhc.noaa.gov.	300	IN	CNAME	edge-nws.woc.noaa.gov.
> www.nhc.noaa.gov.	300	IN	RRSIG	CNAME 5 4 300 20150205145231 20
> 150129145231 =
> 49680 nhc.noaa.gov. 
> LRzPzZS3xkV21r3YDBiCXUvroMnuT2Fw7jzjlmpusRhP82Ai+XPftnu=
> K rmbu9pqIgIA28pe7wR8Sz61LEfhvNtGfS9JOMcMPxQmBlny6/JWSgwBF 
> hlIhOqyRSktraXTT= J/n9sSqC3/QjKFs+dWTTrynTy2ZvfWscqL2KakaT 
> pqcSrhDolgyDocqsExzgcWjyPYSHwR/rCM=
> CcCje5PXfY1GrzrQ/UUMe0 
> rAr7kn6J1C0oDmUtbpIRYuqNQKwPp2EdIZ8akZmL151HDMcIlc2p=
> G+4X S5zdlMZ3lV/O8WC0E3Db31JIX1EmdjeSiUdhs7GmUC+XW496NdppsCo4 
> G+6JL8LQ=3D=3D
> edge-nws.woc.noaa.gov.	300	IN	CNAME	edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.
> edge-nws.woc.noaa.gov.	300	IN	RRSIG	CNAME 5 4 300 201502051
> 45342 2015012914=
> 5342 41187 woc.noaa.gov. 
> CgEHsTvz6Z+gE8AdDTL/Uy7KuDgtzBwwURLgvu9uBSG9vQD7/a=
> xDgnSy oJOJ/Ir2OlQQEQi7fInwllHLYqFEby8MhBM0ADnkROVP4ixzQdv3Kbj3 
> d6ItRxGIzwz=
> fLEKOAkopeHsWiAy5Eepkeu3DNMyqxEi55AAATUzEJCN1 
> aU9RZokNfmhkv9rKY+lJXUPnXtpoa=
> OASXs9S5hJoI1MVsQWjbYSkiBy7 
> AnVYNTK8IlGnmk/pwIh9NVvygB2bcL0YIy8Cdvqv+7TdM3z=
> 4BfLl2T69 tAn7jdMRqDhEho9hdbw1BJqX2s3IBX9t83wZ9LgS+i/0nwXuGTmsPorZ 
> ZHws6A= =3D=3D
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.172.17.11
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.172.17.21
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	216.38.80.71
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	216.38.80.81
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	129.15.96.11
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	129.15.96.21
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.90.33.11
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.90.33.21
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.90.200.11
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.90.200.21
> edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	RRSIG	A 5 4 30 20150205203218 2015012
> 9203218 5479=
> 5 l.noaa.gov. xhewX9CefTTIY4Hkic+g9CLZKDfiEVNwBFW6AH1M6JsZiH1qmXkddMOo 
> N8rz= QxHVIoVMq27NnpBBRLzcNOqp6AlrxuA1VnCEtsWR3R9cvNSkU03N 
> zrN7nzpdApGRT4T4Uyw6cF=
> TVPJQm8daZRhivqJ2Htgf+bZKB9Dj2yG9R 
> TVPJQm8daZRhivqJ2Htgf+5ppoZpZ9Scf79n7Ul+Rt/beM7eZYmNsBBP0O2Kw+=
> e75hqySyB3plB70p 
> 9hI1QJTsYTgTyCEt0IHu4oXLFpGIRltkEI7GJ13U7UlgPDJaY+OU3Rut 0= 
> lL7V/xWhOabF17mAA+7J/eqYPKcAt/vE9e0tAyyc56791Nn+NCVir/z eolq0Q=3D=3D
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> l.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	NS	ns-mw.noaa.gov.
> l.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	NS	ns-nw.noaa.gov.
> l.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	NS	ns-e.noaa.gov.
> l.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	RRSIG	NS 5 3 86400 20150205203218 201
> 50129203218 5479=
> 5 l.noaa.gov. TxJ2hj2WgSC/rUoUboTxelNmPEyJYoDSuy7iBcmS3A6cCtEK5TU46R8g 
> zFDR=
> 7beDuAiz8rgcef5gW9s8DW6CVvZ2Drw71edldQgVh5OjNgxoQED5 
> jCexouzP0JajUI5BZqGMqs= 2l2mRdRXqrDMOky5mgctOD4HmqC4PfDwYs 
> XxWJClW13J4YS/QkYB9IiHGWXLjYb+TvDyqRyxYP=
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> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
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> ns-e.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	AAAA	2610:20:8000:8c00::237
> ns-mw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	A	140.172.17.237
> ns-mw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	AAAA	2610:20:8800:8c00::237
> ns-nw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	A	161.55.32.2
> ns-nw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	AAAA	2610:20:8c00:8c00::2
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> 145234 2015012914523=
> 4 45702 noaa.gov. 
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> ns-nw.noaa.gov.		86400	IN	RRSIG	AAAA 5 3 86400 20150205
> 145234 2015012914523=
> 4 45702 noaa.gov. 
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> vP I17k64Ex/3x5FAX12FTR3z5s51HGSCTguVVZgzJsvy0DrwCIL07xZOtG 
> zRBEXQ=3D=3D
> 
> ;; Query time: 265 msec
> ;; SERVER: 140.172.17.237#53(140.172.17.237) ;; WHEN: Fri Jan 30 
> 08:35:08 E= ST 2015 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 3419
> 
> 
> 
> In message 
> <F5FC122448E1BA4A8D6D2119430B41D54724C677 at MAILMB06.swe.la.gov>, = Brad  Bendily writes:
> > So, for a while we have had issues with resolving www.nhc.noaa.gov.
> >=20
> > In the past, a full restart of named fixed it for some amount of time.
> >=20
> > Last week I updated our named to 9.9.6-P1, so I assumed whatever 
> >the=20  problem was would be resolved by this update. Apparently not.
> >=20
> > As you can see from the dig commands below. One resolves 
> >correctly,=20  then 2 mi nutes later SERVFAIL. How can I troubleshoot this further?
> >=20
> > thanks
> > bb
> >=20
> > dr93la08:/var/lib/named/slave # dig www.nhc.noaa.gov
> >=20
> > ; <<>> DiG 9.9.6-P1 <<>> www.nhc.noaa.gov ;; global options: +cmd 
> >;;=20  Got answ
> > er:
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27700 ;; flags: 
> >qr=20  rd ra;
> >  QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 12, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 4
> >=20
> > ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> > ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;www.nhc.noaa.gov.		IN	A
> >=20
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > www.nhc.noaa.gov.	300	IN	CNAME	edge-nws.woc.noaa.gov.
> > edge-nws.woc.noaa.gov.	300	IN	CNAME	edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.
> > edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.172.17.11
> > edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.90.33.11
> > edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.172.17.21
> > edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	129.15.96.21
> > edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	216.38.80.71
> > edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.90.200.21
> > edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.90.33.21
> > edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	216.38.80.81
> > edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	129.15.96.11
> > edge-p1.l.noaa.gov.	30	IN	A	140.90.200.11
> >=20
> > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> > gov.			172795	IN	NS	a.gov-servers.net.
> > gov.			172795	IN	NS	b.gov-servers.net.
> >=20
> > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> > a.gov-servers.net.	172795	IN	A	69.36.157.30
> > a.gov-servers.net.	172795	IN	AAAA	2001:500:4431::2:30
> > b.gov-servers.net.	172795	IN	A	209.112.123.30
> >=20
> > ;; Query time: 3641 msec
> > ;; SERVER: 10.120.11.107#53(10.120.11.107) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 29=20
> > 11:52:24 CST 2
> > 015 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 363
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > dr93la08:/var/lib/named/slave # dig www.nhc.noaa.gov
> >=20
> > ; <<>> DiG 9.9.6-P1 <<>> www.nhc.noaa.gov ;; global options: +cmd 
> >;;=20  Got answ er:k ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, 
> >id:=20
> > 64437 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0,=20
> > ADDITIONAL: 1
> >=20
> > ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> > ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;www.nhc.noaa.gov.		IN	A
> >=20
> > ;; Query time: 320 msec
> > ;; SERVER: 10.120.11.107#53(10.120.11.107) ;; WHEN: Thu Jan 29=20
> > 11:53:59 CST 2
> > 015 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 45
> >=20
> >=20
> > bb
> >=20
> > Brad Bendily
> > System Administrator
> > Northrop Grumman Corporation
> > Louisiana Dept. of
> > Children and Family Services
> > brad.bendily at la.gov
> > 225.342.6972
> >=20
> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
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