No more support for windows

[Ondřej Surý]

Peter,

do you seriously think that this word play is going to help the BIND 9
support for Windows? So, I am asking you, what’s your serious
proposal what should we do?

I’ve had asked if people are willing to invest time, effort or money
into keeping the Windows support alive. I would rather accept an
external contributor with a commitment rather than just a fat cheque,
because Windows support isn’t really something we are putting our
heart in.

The ISC is working on improving BIND 9 day and night (in fact, it’s
almost 11pm here), and we are spread thin, and we have to prioritise.
And if I had to answer the question whether I and my team should
spend time improving BIND 9 just for everybody or invest the precious
time into fixing yet another incompatibility between POSIX/SUSv2 and
Windows world, I think the answer would be always: Let’s improve
things for majority of our users. It’s just simple as that.

Ondrej
--
Ondřej Surý (He/Him)
ondrej at isc.org

> On 4. 6. 2021, at 20:37, Peter Coghlan <bind at beyondthepale.ie> wrote:
> 
> What I find ironic is that here:
> 
> https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/blob/main/README.md
> 
> the very first line says:
> 
> "BIND (Berkeley Internet Name Domain) is a complete, highly portable
> implementation of the Domain Name System (DNS) protocol."
> 
> If this were truly the case, BIND would work on Windows (or any other
> platform that doesn't have a "u" in it's name) with minimal effort
> and would not require specific funding to adapt it to any particular
> platform.
> 
> Can we please have a realistic definition of what BIND is and what
> it's objectives are?
> 
> I for one would be more likely to contribute to the development of
> a non-platform-specific, portable BIND than a single-platform-specific
> one.
> 
> On the other hand, if it has already been decided that BIND can only
> realistically be implemented in the *u* arena and will rely on
> facilities only available in this arena, then shouldn't this be stated
> clearly instead of also declaring that it is highly portable?
> 
> Regards,
> Peter Coghlan.
> 
>> 
>> Do you understand how ironic is for you to complain about “subscription is
>> not going to happen” while **every** email on the mailing list has this
>> note in the footer:
>> 
>> ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions.
>> Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information.
>> 
>> --
>> Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)
>> 
>> My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.
>> 
>>> On 4. 6. 2021, at 19:47, Peter via bind-users <bind-users at lists.isc.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 04/06/2021 6:05 pm, John Thurston wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/4/2021 8:48 AM, Peter via bind-users wrote: 
>>>>> When people find out2024 is the year bind is no longer supported for 
>>>>> windows people aregoing to be upset this all seems to be done quietly 
>>>>> nothing posted on the the isc.org site about this just how many people 
>>>>> depend on bind for windows will be shocking. 
>>>> 
>>>> And griping about the decision on the mailing list is annoying. 
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to alter the decision, bring something new to the discussion. Funding to pay for the windows development team? Logistical support for the project? 
>>>> 
>>>> Anything constructive will be better received than repeating "I don't like your decision". 
>>>> 
>>> Yes John Thurston I said about a subscription here which I guess will not happen if they made up thier mind its likly no going to happen.  
>>> 
>>> Deprecating BIND 9.18+ on Windows (or making it community improved and supported (isc.org)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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