Problems with overview or expire configuration

Scott Russell lnxgeek at
Fri Nov 16 20:39:26 UTC 2001

Ah, fun with obdb and expireover! I just went though similar problems during
an inn 2.2.x -> inn 2.3.2 upgrade.

Before running any of this make sure your storage.conf is setup correctly
and your do this as the news user. If not makehistory may fail or worse yet
muck with permissions. I don't know if all this is right but it worked for me.

First I throtled the server and killed existing history* files. Next create
an empty history file (touch history) and run makedbz -i. Move history.n.*
to history.* and then run makehistory -a -O -b -e to rebuild history and
obdb stuff. 

Next I ran news daily as:

  su - news -c "/usr/bin/news.daily delayrm noexpireover"

I repated this until I got a clean expire run for the artical spool.
Aparently I had several duplicate entries in the history file which were
messing up the ovdb during the expireover run. Check the email news.daily
creates to make sure you get a good expire run.

Once I did I ran news.daily again without the noexpireover option and
everything worked as it should.

Again, this worked for me. I also admit to being an egg when it comes to
nntp admin work so take all this with a grain of salt.

-- Scott

On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:53:57PM +0100, Nicolas STRANSKY wrote:
> I'm using inn v2.3.2 on Debian woody.
> Following a server crash, the overview was thought to be corrupted or
> incomplete, even though I'm using ReiserFS, so I managed to rebuild it. All
> messages are still in the spool.
> news:~$ /usr/lib/news/bin/makehistory -O -F
> I also fixed the values in the active file.
> All messages present in the spool were then available and marked as unread
> in the newsreaders, so I had to launch this command:
> news:~$ /usr/lib/news/bin/news.daily expireover lowmark delayrm nostat
> nomail
> But then I had the following problem: a lot messages have disappeared from
> the overview, which is quite strange because the news.daily command is
> launched every night, it has never had this effect before the crash, and I
> haven't changed the expire.ctl configuration. The overview of really recent
> newsgroups is even completely empty, and many messages of other newsgroups
> are missing when I try to read them with any newsreader.
> Here is my expire.ctl configuration:
> /remember/:14
> *:A:1:10:never
> crans.*:A:55:90:never
> can you help me fix this expire or overview problem ?
> best regards,
> --
> Nicolas STRANSKY

 Scott Russell (lnxgeek at
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