add "Auto-Submitted: auto-generated" to generated EMails?

Julien ÉLIE julien at trigofacile.com
Wed Mar 22 18:38:02 UTC 2023


Hi Grant,

>> Yes, indeed.  Although I do suspect that would result in better 
>> deliverability of moderated group submissions.
> 
> If we're tweaking how things are being sent, perhaps also explore some 
> ESMTP options like setting notify or what's returned (headers vs full 
> message).

Is this something we can do at the level of INN?

I am under the impression it is a configuration of the MTA, and we 
cannot do much within INN.
Should we just add a sentence in the description of the mta parameter in 
the inn.conf manual page?
Something like "If you want to monitor the deliverability of mails sent 
by INN programs (notably to moderators, gateways or TOP1000 project), 
you should tweak the configuration of your local MTA, for instance by 
enabling bounce in the notify_classes parameter of Postfix."
Beware that if we say something in the documentation, we will surely 
receive questions about it (how to configure it, etc.).

I'm not expert on mails, so maybe that's not the right thing to do.  As 
the envelope sender is not set (-f not used in the sendmail command), 
bounces may not work?

Should we also recommend to add "-f <newsmasteraddress>" at the end of 
the mta line (whose defaults to "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -oem %s") to 
better monitor the deliverability of mails?

Any other thing?



>> Some sort of centralized database like that is presumably the 
>> solution, though, whether at ISC or on GitHub or somewhere else like 
>> that. Not eyrie.org, though; there's too much Usenet stuff that 
>> depends on me personally already.  :)
> 
> Is there a way to distribute this so that's it's not centralized?  The 
> first thing that comes to mind is DNS.

Which domains should have their DNS updated?  It seems that 
moderators.isc.org should list all the configuration, and also possible 
other sites mentioned in the moderators file (fido7.org, 
nl.news-admin.org, etc.).  It's still somewhat centralized.

-- 
Julien ÉLIE

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