syncronizing 2 dns server (windows/linux)

Josh Hyles josh.maillists at gmail.com
Mon Sep 26 18:17:34 UTC 2005


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Didnt mean to start a big ordeal, but thanks for the reply. I admit my
knowledge of *nix is lacking, but thats partly due to the programmer in the
company I work with only knows .NET and must have windows. I've wanted to
branch out and use linux for the longest time because I like the fact that
nothing is hidden, if you know your way around anyway. As for windows
usability, I think i confused that with easy of use. I find it a lot easier
to edit text files then using the mouse fo click through 100 windows. I
think it would be nice if bind docs where a little more idiot friendly
though, I admit my ability to understand the linux world in its entirety is
a process by which initial hardships are unavoidable. With windows for
example, I know enough to get around almost any application simply because
there is a general standard of menu layouts and such. In comparison, I know
very little about linux file structure and program installation standards
thus I dont have the template of knowledge for all things linux, but I'm
getting there. For example, just the other day I was installing apache2 on
my slackware box and I realized that if you ./configure a program, and then
try and move it to a new folder to make and install it, you have to re-
./configure it.

I think people coming from windows just want a standard way of doing things
so as to be "right" or "wrong" in terms of the process and you cant always
have that in this world.

In any case, thanks for shedding light on some of my confusion about the
world of open source.

ps. if anyone knows a language comparable to .Net that will allow my
co-worker to mvoe to linux, please do share. His complaint is that he could
do the same programming in php but it would take 100x as long. I know
nothing about programming really, so i have no comment on that.

On 9/26/05, /dev/rob0 <rob0 at gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On Sunday 2005-September-25 22:55, Josh Hyles wrote:
> > Thats my complaint.
>
> My complaint is that it's hard to know what you're complaining about
> when you have top-posted. :)
>
> > There is PLENTY of docs, but they are in like 100 places.
>
> How else could it be? You perhaps don't understand the free software
> world. People work on software in areas of interest, loosely organise,
> and give it away. Contributors come and go, look over the source, share
> their ideas, and the best of those are usually accepted by the project
> maintainers.
>
> You should get out of that corporate mentality. Free software is not
> about corporations, even where certain projects are sponsored by
> commercial entities. Free software is about community. Diversity is a
> feature, not a bug.
>
> Many groups try to provide "umbrella" services to bring much of it
> together into a cohesive whole. Try paying one of the big commercial
> Linux distributors for support, and perhaps you will find things much
> easier.
>
> > The guy who listed the whole directory shows the problem
> > right there. There should be ONE doc, not 10-20. It should be a
> > single HTML or pdf or something with chapters and such.
>
> Oh come on! This is ridiculous! HT stands for hypertext, and again,
> that's a feature, not a bug. All you need to do is to load the main
> page in your browser and it takes you anywhere you need to go.
>
> FYI that main page is called "Bv9ARM.html". I will say that perhaps an
> index.html would be a good idea, because then everyone would know where
> to look (yeah, right.) But really, it didn't take me long to look over
> the list of filenames and click that one.
>
> > I do have the DNS & BIND book,
> > even in PDF format, but I didn't find what I wanted to know in there.
> > It just seems disorganized. Much like the rest of the linux
>
> How might a community be organised? Is that possible? If I'm following
> orders I don't feel like I'm part of a community.
>
> > community. I don't mean that as a negative thing, I just think the
> > reason windows is doing so well in terms of usability and shear
>
> I don't see the usability advantage, which is why I have completely
> given up on Windows. Sure, they use marketing muscle to inhibit
> development of some hardware drivers, but this can usually be made a
> non-issue by careful buying.
>
> > number of users is because one company came together and made
> > one(shitty) piece of software :-) This is totally OT, but my point
>
> How many companies have you paid, like you paid MS? Novell and Red Hat
> and others would surely love to have your business.
>
> I haven't paid. A few petty donations here and there, but no, I have
> done it through the freedom thing ... information is readily available
> so you can build and maintain your computing systems. And I guess I do
> pay in my way: I try to contribute something back by helping out.
>
> > is, it would be nice for a couple how-to's to exist, or better docs.
> > And if I've just stuck my foot in my mouth because I didn't read
>
> The big fallacy here is that you're comparing apples and oranges. I
> think if you spent money on Linux the same way you do on Windows you
> would be making a more valid comparison.
>
> Try OS X ... forget Linux, if you want a platform which is truly
> supported by a vendor, and yet still has the advantages of free
> software.
>
> > something right, or there are good docs that I'm not seeing, then, I
> > do apologize.
>
> You're right about this being offtopic, so I apologise as well for
> dragging it out, but it's such a common sentiment that I think it
> should be addressed.
>
> I think the root problem is that people come into the Unix world from
> Windows, and they have absolutely no concept of how and why things
> work. For goodness sake, they consider "Network Neighbourhood" a
> diagnostic tool! Then they try to throw together complex systems which
> require knowledge of other systems, and they're bewildered.
>
> I look at the Bv9ARM and I see "good docs". Perhaps you don't. That
> doesn't mean I'm right and you're wrong; merely that your needs are
> different.
>
> FWIW, I am a DOS/Windows refugee myself. It wasn't always easy. My
> perspective is in looking back on those days of bewilderment and
> frustration; I am thankful that now I tend to be more successful. :)
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