Do we really need this mailing list?

[Victoria Risk]

> On Jan 21, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Paul Vixie <paul at redbarn.org> wrote:
> 
> indeed. back in the day, i was a member of mh-users and mh-workers, and this inspired me to create bind-users and bind-workers. the point was outreach and engagement to people who would help design and implement the software.
> 
> vicky, i am unsure where discussions take place in the gitlab. help?

This is exactly the kind of discussions that usually take place in Gitlab. For example, if someone is proposing a change in the software, that proposal is normally debated there, on a ticket, where the code in question can be shared, reviewed, commented on and merged.  Example of tickets like this with a lot of discussion:  https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2066 <https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2066> , and https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2641 <https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2641>.

If there is no software change being discussed, but just a question such as ‘How does SRTT work in BIND?’ and ‘Why?’ that kind of question is perfectly appropriate for BIND-users, where users, packagers, developers of other DNS software (anyone) and ISC developers can reply and discuss.  

There is no hidden desire here to stifle discussion - it is just that with the proliferation of other channels, including Gitlab, the DNS-OARC mattermost, dnsops and related mailing lists, having multiple lists for public discussion of BIND seems unnecessary. At any rate, the core team has trouble keeping up with all the lists, so we thought we would consolidate.

Vicky
> 
> paul
> 
> re:
> 
> Lars-Johan Liman wrote on 2022-01-21 05:29:
>> Hi Vicky!
>> I'm not opposed to closing this list if we can agree to use some
>> (several?) other forum(-a) for the (few!) issues that come up here -
>> e.g., general questions about design choices, observations of strange
>> behaviour, and/or suggestions of/discussions abuout new features.
>> 				Cheers,
>> 				  /Liman
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>> vicky at isc.org 2022-01-20 17:16 [-0500]:
>>> Hello folks,
>>> We at ISC would like to shut down this list.
>>> We have bind-users, and bind-announce, and now that our development
>>> environment, https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9
>>> <https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9> is completely open, this
>>> list seems redundant. There are 540 people subscribed, but only a
>>> handful actually post here.
>>> We will put the list into moderation, and plan to shut it down in
>>> about a month. If anyone has a strong objection, speak up! Otherwise,
>>> if you haven’t, go subscribe to bind-users at lists.isc.org
>>> <mailto:bind-users at lists.isc.org>.
>>> Regards,
>>> Vicky Risk, ISC
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> P Vixie
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