problems observed with IRRToolSet-4.8.2 - and the mailing list!?

Andreas Polyrakis apolyr at
Fri Feb 10 15:06:02 UTC 2006


we have also reported some problems with IRRToolSet 4.8.2 quite some 
time ago (over a year). If I remember correctly, the issues mainly 
concerned RPSLng, but we had identified some other minor bugs as well.
Nobody ever replied to our e-mail. I have the impression that ISC has 
"frozen" IRRToolset (no new version since the toolset moved to ISC), 
which, if true, is very sad since many operators use the toolset. Can 
someone from ISC inform us if there are people commited to this project, 
if we can expect a new version and if it is meaningfull to submit bugs 
to the mailing list?


Andreas Polyrakis
apolyr at
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Ruediger Volk, Deutsche Telekom T-Com - TE14 P1 wrote:
> Trying to install and use a new copy of IRRToolSet 4.8.2 we recently run
> into several problems;  some of which are not really new.
> The set of problems also includes the working status of the mailing list
> irrtoolset at, which had NO traffic since early November, and
> some messages sent to it since from members of my team to this address
> seem to have met a black hole.  So this message is ALSO meant to test
> the mailing list again (listmaster: we know your address works, please check
> arrival/redistribution/archiving of this message).
> list of problems found:
> (1)
>     is different from the version available from 
>     We understand that the ISC version will be updated in the near future.
> (2) APNIC's whois server (RIPE NCC software with RPSS functions disabled)
>     has changed syntax of some embedded comments in a way that violates
>     the protocol assumptions in IRRToolSet 4.8.2
>     (required/allowed "empty lines" ~ "\n\n" in the context of "%" comment
>     lines).
>     We will offer a fix for this (in separately.
>     (This problem seems to be around since APNIC switched to a database
>     version supporting IPv6/RPSLng)
> (3) We are seeing cases where resolving to route-sets
>     (a) an ASnnn and
>     (b) an AS-set AS-xxxx which includes ASnnn as a member
>     lists some prefixes
> 	as members of ASnnn
> 	but NOT as members of AS-xxxx
>     (Which turns something like "^14-24"
>     into some thousand separately listed 125.16.x.y/n^n-n or 125.16.x.y/n^m-m
>     that don't combine into any 125.16.x.y/n^m-l unless m=l)
>     We have verified that peval and the database server (using the standard
>     RIPE NCC server whois.RIPE.NET) actually include the complete query
>     for ASnnn (including all results) as a proper substring of the
>     complete query for AS-xxxx;  so the loss seems to happen somewhere
>     in the IRRtoolSet code.
>     Does anybody remember seeing something similar?
>     We will come back with examples to reproduce the problem separately.
> Best regards,
>   Ruediger
> Ruediger Volk
> Deutsche Telekom AG -- Internet Backbone Engineering
> E-Mail:  rv at NIC.DTAG.DE
> Phone:   +49 251 7985 200	fax:  +49 251 7985 109

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